Next step up for #80

[onnfire]

What is the next more agressive product than # 80? I have looked at the charts but i just want to confirm it before i go and do something stupid do my car. Or, do you think it is my technique and that i can get better results with #80 alone with better technique?(It was my first time using it) And finally, do you find that #80 is able to remove all(at a least a majority) of the cobwebs found in your paint?

Thanks for reading that and it is a little confusing and not organized very well.

[Murr1525]

Re: Next step up for #80

#83 would be next up.

Now, if it was you first time, it may be worth giving #80 another chance, making sure to only move your arms slowly, stay in a small area.

[onnfire]

Re: Next step up for #80

So the new scratch-x is more abrasive than #83?

[Murr1525]

Re: Next step up for #80

I think #83 is more agressive than the new ScratchX.

ScratchX is a hand product that can be used by PC. #83 is designed for PC use, so I would just go straight to it, if you dont have either on hand.

[onnfire]

Re: Next step up for #80

As you advised, i will watch the dvd again and give #80 another chance. If it doesnt work i will get #83. Now i have a follow up question, when you use #83, do you have to go back over the area again with #80?

[Murr1525]

Re: Next step up for #80

Maybe.

For a show car finish, it would be recommended. #83 could leave a bit of micro marring on some paints, maybe none on others. An average person probably wouldn't notice either way, but thats not why were here is it....

[onnfire]

Re: Next step up for #80

Ok, thanks for all the help

[Murr1525]

Re: Next step up for #80

Just to add.. you dont have to do the whole car with #80 again. Dial in your procedure on one trouble area, or trouble panel, then from there.

[onnfire]

Re: Next step up for #80

Yeah, i have only tried it on the trunk. I have yet to try and do the whole car.

[sneek]

Re: Next step up for #80

I am going to guess that you are working on your A4?

Audi's tend to have really really hard paint. I used to have a trunk lid off one of them and I couldn't touch the swirls with a PC. I think i could have taken them out if I was any good with my rotary.

[onnfire]

Re: Next step up for #80

Yeah, im working on my silver a4. Ill get some pictures up tommorow.

[TH0001]

Re: Next step up for #80

Audi's have very hard paint that even #83 with a PC may not really improve upon with out several applications.

I understand your need for detailed, step by step applications, but the truth is there is no such thing. What I like, you may not like, ect...

So does #83 need to be follwed by #80. I here yes around here a lot, but I find #83 to leave an LSP ready surface on most paints I come across. Do a two spots with #83, then use tape to seperate them. Buff one half with #80 as a follower and compare it to the side with #83. See if you notice a difference.

Base coat color as well as paint harderness filtered through your eyes are what will make you happy. If your happy with the #83's finish, then go to the LSP. If you see an improvement with the #80, then go that route. Detailing is trial and error.

For most Audi's I usually need #83 and rotary to correct small defects, though I find that leaves the surface LSP ready in my eyes.

[MaximusZTS]

Re: Next step up for #80

So the new scratch-x is more abrasive than #83?

I have heard ScratchX is compared to #82.