#2 & #83, are they the same ?

[Vincent]

Why so many people keep mentioning about #80 series of product how they could produce wonders result . How about #2 ? Can this product produce the same results and could solve the same problem as #83 ? Does meguairs having the same product which could tackle the same defects but with a different name ? Sometime I was confusing which product to chose for my defects, seems most of the product could solve the problem. Dont know which one is the best one. Sometime too many products is not a good thing..easily confuse end user...Any one facing the same problem like me ?

[Murr1525]

Re: #2 & #83, are they the same ?

Originaly, the single digits were for rotary use, and the 80's for PC use.

But now that some of the single digits are ok for PC use as well, it would be interesting to know how they relate, or if they should?

[John Keeling]

Re: #2 & #83, are they the same ?

The 83 is a cleaner/ polish and the 2 is simply a cleaner.

[Murr1525]

Re: #2 & #83, are they the same ?

Would #2 and #83 be equivelent as far as cleaning ability? And #1 stronger than #83?

[Tim Lingor]

Re: #2 & #83, are they the same ?

Hey,

Just to correct some misinformation....

Meguiar's M04 Heavy Cut Cleaner, M01 Medium Cut Cleaner, M02 Fine Cut Cleaner (Meg's Traditional paint Cleaners) were originally developed for single stage paint and were for rotary application only. Meguiar's M09 Swirl Remover and M07, M03 and M05 (with M03 designed for rotary application as it is a wet product, but can still be applied by PC or hand) can be used by PC or by hand with M09 and M03 able to be used with a rotary buffer. Recently, M02 has been reformulated allowing it to now be used by rotary, PC or by hand. However, the other designations remain the same.

Meguiar's 80 series was developed with Base Coat/Clear Coat paint in mind. Meg's M85, and M84 are still for rotary use only and have never been approved for use with a PC. Meg's M83, M82, M80 can be used by rotary, PC or by hand. M81 Hand Polish is for hand or PC application.

As for comparing them, that is comparing apples to oranges. Because the traditional paint cleaners were designed for singe stage paint, they use a very different diminishing abrasive compared to the 80 series. So a comparison can not really be made. If you use a buffer, you would note the way they behave and how they react to polishing certain paints.

Tim

[Murr1525]

Re: #2 & #83, are they the same ?

Well, thats certainly the key thing to know then...

Thanks Tim

[Tim Lingor]

Re: #2 & #83, are they the same ?

Well, thats certainly the key thing to know then...

Thanks Tim

It is tough to explain unless a person has actually used them with a buffer. If you take M04 and rub it between your fingers, it feels very different than M85 Diamond Cut which is the most aggressive in the 80 series. On BC/CC, M04 can scour the finish if you are not careful where as M85 and a wool pad with the rotary, you can obtain an extremely clear finish. Another example would be using M04 on glass. It will cut through the grime really easily where as M85 will not. So again, different products for certain jobs. I use a lot of M04 and M84 as both do an excellent job with their prespective qualities in mind.

Tim

[Murr1525]

Re: #2 & #83, are they the same ?

Certainly wont be seeing me with a rotary buffer anytime soon....