DO i have to use 80 after 83???

[ADHD]

Just like the topic states!! I just did #83 and my paint is BLACK and its a bit dull(but holy >>>> it worked) as it sits so DO ihave to use 80 to bring back the shine or can I go right to #7 the pure polish!!! What will give me the best results for my BLACK car???
Ive finally come to the conclusion that I need to use the 7006 pad with #83!!! YES it worked....HOLY WOW...the 8006 pad wasnt doing anything at all to my paint with #83.. so ive got really frustrated lately and was going to have my car professionally wetsanded etc!! WEll im glad I went down to my local auto paint store and was talked out of it and was given the confidence that i can do this myself!!! BEtween them and this forum my car is finally coming up to my standards and i think ill be able to sleep better at night!
I had 2 really noticable spots that really bugged the >>>> out of me and there now gone!! ive been using my 1000w light on a tripod to assist me in my work and can say that most of the damage is GONE.. IM so happy i finally decided to use the 7006 pad with the #83 It really did the job know i need to seal it back up so any advice would be appreciated!!!

[Jeepster04]

Re: DO i have to use 80 after 83???

Yea, the 7006 pad cuts alot better than the 8006. Megs doesn't recommend the 7006 but it gets the job done ALOT quicker.

[lgangi]

Re: DO i have to use 80 after 83???

Glad to hear how you've achieved good results with the more aggressive pad.

I'd say that after all that work, and a few beers, you should take the extra step with #80 or #82 before going pure polish...especially with black.

You do plan to top it with something like #26, #21 or #16 corerct?

Let us know what you decide and how it turns out!!!

[ADHD]

Re: DO i have to use 80 after 83???

Glad to hear how you've achieved good results with the more aggressive pad.

I'd say that after all that work, and a few beers, you should take the extra step with #80 or #82 before going pure polish...especially with black.

You do plan to top it with something like #26, #21 or #16 corerct?

Let us know what you decide and how it turns out!!!

hmm yes i see your point!! I think im going to do #9 so my plan of attack is
#83
#9
#7
#21
#26
Or i may go #83, then maybe #2??? then #9?? what do u think the BEST plan of attack is???

[lgangi]

Re: DO i have to use 80 after 83???

IMHO...

Topping #21 with #26 sounds like overkill..and may not adhere as well as you'd like due their different formulations.

9 and 7 are very close, and although the order you list them is correct, may not make a differnce worth the effort. I'd like to hear other opinions..

I have very deep blue G35 - haven't needed anything like 83 but best results to date have been #82 -> #7 -> #21 x2 (#16 was replaced by NXT which was recently replaced by #21)

[ADHD]

Re: DO i have to use 80 after 83???

well actully the #9 is still a low cut cleaner as well so it shows on the bottle and the #7 is just polish. Im thinking i can go right from 83 to #7 but im not sure so I need advice ASAP please.. so any advice is really appreciated???

[Michael Stoops]

Re: DO i have to use 80 after 83???

I just did #83 and my paint is BLACK and its a bit dull(but holy >>>> it worked) as it sits so DO ihave to use 80 to bring back the shine or can I go right to #7 the pure polish!!! What will give me the best results for my BLACK car???

I added the bold in the above quote. While the use of the 7006 along with #83 did a great job of removing swirls and other defects, what you're now left with is the hazing caused by this pretty aggressive product combination. In fact, my understanding is that the results you have at this point are precisely why Meguiar's does not recommend the 7006 pad with the G100.

So right now you have, by your own admission, slightly dull paint. The object of the polishing process is to remove defects and instill a high gloss finish. Thus far you've only done half the process - well, techinically less than half since you've basically swapped one sort of marring for another. That's not necessarily a bad thing, you just need to complete the process. I think going straight to #7 would not give the best results as #7 is a pure polish and won't do diddly as far as removing the defects you still have.

I would strongly urge that your next step be M80 with the 8006 Polishing Pad. This should remove the hazing and marring left behind by the 7006/83 and prepare your finish beautifully for your choice of wax/sealant.

I've been to enough Saturday and Wednesday sessions at Meguiar's to have seen this sort of thing plenty of times. It's pretty rare that a car comes through and is hit with 83 without being followed by 80, especially a black car, again for the very reason you are seeing with your own vehicle.

[ADHD]

Re: DO i have to use 80 after 83???

well I barely have any #80 left so I went with the #9 i noticed its very similiar charateristics and abrasiveness! YES your right my paint is hazed!! BUt im halfway done with putting #9 on it and its bringing it right back with great shine!! so after the #9 ill go to #7!!!
WHAt is your opinion on my thinking???

[Michael Stoops]

Re: DO i have to use 80 after 83???

well I barely have any #80 left so I went with the #9 i noticed its very similiar charateristics and abrasiveness! YES your right my paint is hazed!! BUt im halfway done with putting #9 on it and its bringing it right back with great shine!! so after the #9 ill go to #7!!!
WHAt is your opinion on my thinking???

#9 doesn't have quite the bite that #80 does, but then again the light hazing left behind by the 7006 pad/#83 shouldn't be too difficult to remove. #7 is an optional step, but it can really help bring out that extra pop, especially on dark colors and single stage paint. If you then top #7 with something like NXT, #20 or #21 you should have a great looking finish when you're, um, finished.

[ADHD]

Re: DO i have to use 80 after 83???

#9 doesn't have quite the bite that #80 does, but then again the light hazing left behind by the 7006 pad/#83 shouldn't be too difficult to remove. #7 is an optional step, but it can really help bring out that extra pop, especially on dark colors and single stage paint. If you then top #7 with something like NXT, #20 or #21 you should have a great looking finish when you're, um, finished.

lol thanks for your help man!! YES the hazing wasnt hard to remove at all! The #9 did a AWESOME job!! I just finished the #9 on my whole car and came and washed my hands and walked back out to the garage and my eyes were amazed!! Its got that wet look back again and is shining already!!!
So im off to put some #7 on with a 9006 pad and ill be back!! lol..
ya ill be finished sometime tonight!! lol

[TH0001]

Re: DO i have to use 80 after 83???

Are you doing this all with a PC? Or are you using a rotary also?

[ADHD]

Re: DO i have to use 80 after 83???

Are you doing this all with a PC? Or are you using a rotary also?

This is all with a megs G100A! Im not that cool to be using a rotary yet!!

[ADHD]

Re: DO i have to use 80 after 83???

so I still havent got an answer to my original question?????

[noswirler]

Re: DO i have to use 80 after 83???

if you have #80, yes its best . but take #2 out of the mix

[Michael Stoops]

Re: DO i have to use 80 after 83???

so I still havent got an answer to my original question?????

Uh, I thought I was pretty thorough on that back at post #7!

In a nutshell though, no you don't HAVE to use 80 after 83.
You also don't HAVE to buff out your swirls either.
Heck, you don't even HAVE to wash your car.

But if you want to remove the hazing so often caused by 83, expecially when used with a 7006 pad, then I would STRONGLY URGE you to use 80 after 83.