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Has that door been wet sanded? It looks like you can see the vallies of the orange peel
Has that door been wet sanded? It looks like you can see the vallies of the orange peel
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Patrick Yu
2003 Honda Accord
2008 Honda Accord EX-L V6
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Re: I'm very upset and feel cheated...
What kind of prep did you do before buffing and what machine did you apply the 84 with?Comment
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Re: I'm very upset and feel cheated...
No. I read all the post and I agree with Mike: There's a thing in your technique that should be improved.
People are saying that the PC with #80 should remove the defects pretty farily and maybe a second pass would remove them almost completely. I agree with that even though I haven't used one of those (I trust the PC).
For this particular case, check the amount of pressure you're applying to your work. No matter if you use a PC or a rotary.
the thing here is because even if you use products that have the least amount of fillers(oils, which need to be there), technique will give you the true flawless finish.
If you use M80, Or Perfect it III swirl mark remover, or M82, M83, or any brand and type of polish, you need to make the right combination of pad selection, product, speed and pressure to remove certain defects.
this doesn't mean that you should put a lot of pressure to the PC or rotary. just a little bit more to do the following action: remove the defect.
now, if you're using M84, be sure to do it with a rotary and up to the point where you're leaving alsmost no residue. then follow it up with M83, and seek the flawless (optional) with the PC and 80.
If you're gonna do this one with the PC, work it with M83 and a w8006 pad with medium pressure. I find it easier to know how much pressure to apply with 3M pads though :P but just put a little more weight down to the PC into a point where you feel you're putting pressure and the machine does its job easily. that should cut the defects and not just fill the defects. then give it a pass with 80 with the same pressure. then wax the car and that should solve the problem.
Dealing with pressure at first is hard to put in practice and understand, but as mike said, all you need is time to master your skills and bring your work to its best. just be patient. And consider wool pads as your last resort. they cut through defects better than foam, but will leave buffer swirls and let you with a new challenge and more in a black car: remove them.
to understand a bit the pressure concept, access this link:
open the ultrafina (10 minute) video and put special attention to the part where they explain the pressure stuff.
I'd suggest you to get the "how to remove paint defects" to understand these concepts and take your results and buffing techniques to a new level.
hope this helps.
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