Rotary damage

[kboxer]

So I finally get the opportunitty to do my personal truck tomorrow. It is a black 05 Ford Suv. My first run with 80 was not good. Lots of rotary burns and holograms. Only had the buffer a little over 1000 rpm. A lot of product I had used before did not use diminsihing abrasive so it was all new to me.

Big question is if 80 and a rotary caused it do you think 80 and a rotary can fix it. I will do my test spot, just looking for some input. I will most likely follow pc and 80 after or maybe a 9000 on my rotary with 82. I am excited. Been waiting for months to find the time.

Plus the truck is full of them from the dealership anyway on the whole truck.

Also didnt take long to pick up on using these products. The pc video helped, even with my rotary. I tackle smaller areas instead of say, half the hood now(LOL). Inspect and wipe. A lot of the basics stay true with either.

So anyway just looking for input on my original question. Thanks

[Five Star]

Re: Rotary damage

well the pc and #80 will fix the holograms, however nothing can help the burns.

It is always best to use scrap panels to practice and learn on than an 05 Ford

[kboxer]

Re: Rotary damage

I had some trails. Not that it burned through but holograms. Most of them from the dealer when I bought it. They put a nice filling wax on it.


I do have rotary experience but all the products I used were very simple. Put a line of product down and start polishing. Especially the phaze glaze line. I figured the Megs would be no different. Now I know.

I am hoping I will not have to compound my truck but it is looking that way

[Blr123]

Re: Rotary damage

Hi Kboxer,

This is how I do it with #80........spread on speed 1 then upto speed 2 for a couple of passes then speed 3 for a few passes then back down to speed 2 for a few passes and that's it LSP ready

The key is going up the speed range then coming back down as opposed to going up then switching off, doing that you'll have holograms/trails!!

Bryan

[Zet]

Re: Rotary damage

I find going up and down the speed range to be a hassle, and I don't think it is necessary. While I'm sure it works fine for those using that method, I find that the same result can be achieved by varying the pressure applied while polishing. I usually spread the polish using light pressure (sometimes while tapping the on/off switch), then work the polish for a couple of passes using medium pressure until the product has broken down, and then finish off with a few passes using light pressure.

Depending on your paint, #80 should be able to correct the damage and finish down more or less LSP ready, when you get the technique right. But since the paint is black it might be necessary to follow with a finer polish like the #82 you mention.

[kboxer]

Re: Rotary damage

Thanks guys. I will probably go pc after my rotary work just to make sure.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Rotary damage

So I finally get the opportunity to do my personal truck tomorrow. It is a black 05 Ford SUV. My first run with 80 was not good. Lots of rotary burns and holograms. Only had the buffer a little over 1000 rpm. A lot of product I had used before did not use diminishing abrasive so it was all new to me.

What kind of pad were you using?

Big question is if 80 and a rotary caused it do you think 80 and a rotary can fix it. I will do my test spot, just looking for some input. I will most likely follow pc and 80 after or maybe a 9000 on my rotary with 82. I am excited. Been waiting for months to find the time.

Chances are good M80/W-8006/G100 on the 5.0 setting will remove them if you work a small section at a time and focus on the task at hand. Depends on the pad you used with the rotary, wool pads by themselves will instill swirls even if used with baby oil, it's the fibers that cut the paint.

Also didn't take long to pick up on using these products. The pc video helped, even with my rotary. I tackle smaller areas instead of say, half the hood now(LOL). Inspect and wipe. A lot of the basics stay true with either.

So anyway just looking for input on my original question. Thanks

Clear coats are very scratch sensitive, M80 when applied using a rotary buffer is a fairly aggressive product, you might try M82 or M09 with a finishing pad on about 1200 - 1400 rpms, working a small section at a time, cleaning your pad after each application of fresh product to prevent gumming up while buffing. If you're lucky, this will remove the swirls and leave a fairly flat or swirl-free/low-swirl finish that just about anything applied using the Dual Action Polisher, (including ColorX or M66), will remove.

Then apply your LSP

Then always wash and dry carefully as black paint will show everything.

Best of luck...

[kboxer]

Re: Rotary damage

I used an 8000 pad Mike. I will have to try a few different combos and see. Went outside today and no sun. I want to have a good day to really check. After joining here I only use compound with a wool pad. I may look into the burgundy pad and see how that works. Thanks for the input.