rotory & pc ?

[mavrick]

Just wondering,from what info i've got, do you really need a pc? that is a orbital type polisher also to get that flawless, glass finish? or is it possible with just a rotory with todays finishes?and how is meguiars on newly painted finish?

[Mike Phillips]

Re: rotory & pc ?

Each tool offers different options as far as what they can do, so it's not a matter of one or the other, it's what are you trying to acomplish?

[Murr1525]

Re: rotory & pc ?

No, No, No, and good.

But to actualy answer your question.... You can certainly work by hand, or PC, or rotary. There are good and bad points to each.

Rotary vs. PC vs. Regular Orbital Buffer

Your regular $40 orbital buffers just dont have the torque to remove swirls, that is remove some paint. They are somewhat ok for spreading waxes, but not a lot else. And a rotary will will often leave micro-marring behind. It is the PC that leaves the truly flawless finish.

On new paint finishes, Meguiars is great. Naturaly you can stick with the milder cleaners, but it all will work great.

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Using the G-100 to remove swirls with the Professional Line

[mavrick]

Re: rotory & pc ?

THANKS,so after using a rotory,thats all i have right now,a pc would finish it off to the flawless look i want.Man,things sure have changed over the yrs,aah but Christmas is only a few months away, Thanks

[Murr1525]

Re: rotory & pc ?

Part of it is clearcoats.. they will show the little marring a lot easier, so you have to go to finer methods to remove them.

Some of the same reason why foam pads have somewhat replaced wool pads. Just being gentler with the clear coat to leave the best finish.

I do notice you said newly painted... naturally you want to wait the recommended time before waxing, but you can wash/clean/polish right away. #80 even adds a little protection of its own. Not like wax or anything, but at least it is a little something.

[the other pc]

Re: rotory & pc ?

...how is meguiars on newly painted finish?...

Before they decided to make consumer products Meguiar’s was the standard for auto manufacturers, body shops and custom painters for many years and continues to be today.


PC.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: rotory & pc ?

Before they decided to make consumer products Meguiar’s was the standard for auto manufacturers, body shops and custom painters for many years and continues to be today.


PC.

Paul is correct. Meguiar's didn't manufacture consumer products until 1973. Meguiar's started out as a furniture polish company in 1901 and entered into the automotive polish segment of the business in the early 1920's, so that's about 50 years of manufacturing products for the Professional segment of the market, (Auto manufactures and Body shops), until consumer demand led to the entry into the Consumer market.


This thread has some cool pictures that kind of share the story,


Old Mirror Bright Auto Polish - 56k warning

[mavrick]

Re: rotory & pc ?

Thanks,i guess 2 machines,also in case i don't need the rotory for the "rougher" stuff, you know what i mean.So after cured paint ,dry enough to polish, [3-4 days enough ]you don't want to "seal" the paint, so it"ll still be able to "breath" till it really cures good.

[mavrick]

Re: rotory & pc ?

Interesting,i know they've been around awhile,But i've noticed alot of auto body supplies in my area says not a whole lot of calls for it,it seems alot use 3-m stuff.I believe MEGUIARS, has them beat. And what yr do you think that bottle's from? the history pretty cool, THANKS guys,

[matt_c]

Re: rotory & pc ?

According to my local paint supply company, the 3M stuff is a direct copy of the Meguiars, they even use number designators that make it easy to figure out what they have that is like the Meguiars products.

[Chex]

Re: rotory & pc ?

well...part numbers are used mainly for inventory control and to speed up the search process of a product...

IMO, 3M could be more consumed worldwide cuz the brand makes also lots of things that are high quality products, so people think "well, if 3M makes good stuff, then the automotive stuff is good too;" and well, it is. the paste wax and the hand glaze are good products. I once used the super duty rubbing compound and it works pretty good too.

however, processes can change and even the technologies they use for manufacturing the products; mainly in abrasives.

But the essence of this was Mike's past phrase which said something like this

find a product that you like and use it often


there are a lot of good care care product manufacturers, but maybe what works for someone won't work for other person. let's say...you can rave the X brand wax, and other person can use that same product and say bad stuff about it or just not like it at all.

so I think we should test products, see how they perform against others and they do a better job, then we can set that product as our favorite one (my case with meguiar's compounds)

Just make sure it's a quality product , and master it. that way you'll get the results you want to....and don't switch processes or products so often

Hope this Helps

[Mike Phillips]

Re: rotory & pc ?

Thanks,i guess 2 machines,also in case i don't need the rotory for the "rougher" stuff, you know what i mean.So after cured paint ,dry enough to polish, [3-4 days enough ]you don't want to "seal" the paint, so it"ll still be able to "breath" till it really cures good.

Here's an article that addresses the topic of breathing,

Paint Needs to Breathe