ColorX fortnightly ok? (with PC?)

[fishbonezken]

Need some advice please:
I have just finished my first bottle of ColorX.
I am about to buy my second bottle but have thoughts if I should go for Cleaner Wax (A12, maroon bottle) instead.

I want a cleaner wax that I can use fortnightly or even weekly. I am about to apply them with a PC(currently doing by hand).

Which do you think will be the preferred prescription to use most often?

A) Color X with w-8006 polishing pad
B) Color X with w-9006 finishing pad
C) A12 Cleaner Wax with w-8006 polishing pad
D) A12 Cleaner Wax with w-9006 finishing pad

I wash and maintain 3 cars at home and am looking something that will not remove too much paint with frequent use in the long run.

I love Color X alot and have read that it beats A12 cleaner wax for gloss and ease of application and removal...

...but worry that in the long run, I'll be removing too much clear coat when using ColorX with a PC.
(I just want the PC to duplicate my hand movements, i.e, not intended to remove swirls/defects).

If possible, ColorX would be the preferred choice, so am I good if I use a finishing pad with it, low pressure on the pad and at slower speeds?

or I am better off with A12 cleaner wax from the consumer line?

Real sorry for the lengthy post, need to make things clear.

Thanks in advance.

[LiquidBlack]

Be assured that ColorX is a very safe product (heh, i think my last three posts have been "x" is a very safe product), and you should not have any difficulty regarding the safety of your paint.

For the least amount of "cleaning" power, if you are going to apply ColorX weekly, apply Colorx using the w9006 pad on the PC.

[Teak]

Color X is an excellent cleaner wax, but for weekly waxing/maintaining NXT liquid or paste is a better choice. Use Color X when NXT becomes difficult to use (apply and/or remove).

Teak

[imacarnut]

honestly, i would use the colorx once a month as it may be overkill to do more so often. if you apply it once a month and use a spray wax after each wash, it should easily last you over a month. not to mention... you can top the colorx with nxt which would work even better!

[fishbonezken]

What about stains that my weekly wash can't remove?

Do I have to opt for colorX?
I misunderstood that NXT was a pure wax. Only lately I knew that it has some
really really really mild cleaners in it.
But not sure if it will really clean the paint and reveal true gloss and clarity, unlike colorX(the bomb!)...

Thanks again for your opinions...

[Guiser]

Originally posted by fishbonezken
What about stains that my weekly wash can't remove?

Do I have to opt for colorX?
I misunderstood that NXT was a pure wax. Only lately I knew that it has some
really really really mild cleaners in it.
But not sure if it will really clean the paint and reveal true gloss and clarity, unlike colorX(the bomb!)...

Thanks again for your opinions...

What kind of contaminants get on the paint that cannot be removed with a wash when you are washing that often? Just curious.

Also, I'm not sure NXT is a pure wax (to be technically correct it isn't even a wax at all, it is a synthetic based paint protection product). I thought I read somewhere that there were polishing agents in there (making it a polish/wax), but I can't find the post. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

- Ben

[fishbonezken]

Originally posted by Guiser
What kind of contaminants get on the paint that cannot be removed with a wash when you are washing that often? Just curious.

Also, I'm not sure NXT is a pure wax (to be technically correct it isn't even a wax at all, it is a synthetic based paint protection product). I thought I read somewhere that there were polishing agents in there (making it a polish/wax), but I can't find the post. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

- Ben

Hi Ben,
Stains that my weekly wash cannot remove are stains like water spots from the rain, dirt. Even when I swipe my paint my finger, I get a cleaner paint than washing it using NXT wash and Ultra Plush Wash Mitt . Oh, the weather here is terrible, rains almost everyday.

I'm not sure about the polishing agents being existent in NXT 'wax' or not too...But I did notice that spots I missed with colorX, the dirt will come off when I am applying NXT

I found the thread:

http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1755

The ninth post from the top, by Mike Phillips.

I guess I'll have to try if NXT will remove the mild stains i am having, If it does, then NXT weekly or fortnightly would be best. Will report back of any progress...

Kenneth

[farmboy]

I used colorX with my PC once, it seemed to dry out to fast. I like the product, but not with the PC. You may want to consider #66 with the PC. I have never used it, but I've read it is the same type of product.

[fishbonezken]

Re: ColorX fortnightly ok? (with PC?)

I've just bought a PC and tried it out with ColorX + W8006 Polishing Pad, it did it's job well, but became very dusty in the area around it, which is IMO, the drying part that farmboy pointed out.
A12 cleaner wax will be tried on the coming Tuesday(haven't purchase it yet)

[jasonlel]

Re: ColorX fortnightly ok? (with PC?)

Hi guys,

I just bought ColorX. For first time user, how many layers can I apply ColorX? Can I apply multiple layers like 2 to 4 layers?

By the way can I use either Deep Crystal System Carnauba Wax or Meguiars Quick Detailer after ColorX? (since i already bought it last time)

Cheers,
Jason

[Murr1525]

Re: ColorX fortnightly ok? (with PC?)

Because ColorX is a good cleaner, if you apply layers, you will just keep removing it and replacing it.

Unless you have some really bad paint, where multiple applications are needed are needed to fix things, you really only want to use one coat. Then just top it with a regular wax, (Gold Class, Nxt, DC#3,etc), in order to get the recomended 2 coats of wax.

You can certainly use any of the spray detailers after future washings ,to refresh the gloss of ColorX or any other wax. You will want to wait about 12 hours or so before using a spray detailer though, just to let the wax set up.

[STG]

Re: ColorX fortnightly ok? (with PC?)

Hi Ben,
Stains that my weekly wash cannot remove are stains like water spots from the rain, dirt. Even when I swipe my paint my finger, I get a cleaner paint than washing it using NXT wash and Ultra Plush Wash Mitt.

...But I did notice that spots I missed with colorX, the dirt will come off when I am applying NXT

Kenneth

If you are removing dirt when applying Nxt Tech Wax, you must change your procedures and/or techniques.

It is very strange that you are able to swipe dirt and contaminants off your paint with a finger. How are you washing your car? Are you using treated (domestic) water? Here in Cody, Wyoming some people wash their cars with well water and I've seen others wash cars with irrigation (untreated) canal water.

If you wash your car and it is still dirty, find out what you are doing wrong. You can't move on to polishing and waxing until the car is clean.

Perhaps you need to use clay to remove contaminants on your paint after washing.

You say that Nxt gets dirt off spots you missed with ColorX. This tells me that your technique is horrible. Missing spots means yopu don't have enough time or desire to do things correctly.

I own a 2005 Ford F250 Powerstroke Diesel 4 X 4 truck. I drive in on the road, off road, through mud, dirt, gravel, snow, ice, buffalo herds, buffalo manure, and anything else you can imagine. Sometimes I don't wash it for weeks.

When I detail my truck, I wash, clay, apply #83, 80 or 82 and then #21 or Nxt wax. When applying cleaner/polish and wax, I have NEVER picked up dirt on the applicator pads. My pads have residue from #83 and Nxt wax, BUT NO DIRT.

Get your car clean before applying ColorX or wax.

[STG]

Re: ColorX fortnightly ok? (with PC?)

How many people reading this and other threads have noticed that there appears to be a language problem?

It sure seems to me that some new members have the idea that cleaners present in waxes or polishes are there to remove dirt, mud, and anything else that should have been washed or clayed off the paint.

When someone starts a thread and uses the word "fortnightly" in the title or has a location outside the USA listed, we need to remember that they may be taking the literal meaning of every word they read.

I don't know about the rest of you guys, but the words cleaner and polish do not have the same meanings as they do outside MOL or the detailing world.

[fishbonezken]

Re: ColorX fortnightly ok? (with PC?)

Hi STG,

the weather here in my country is horrible. Rains almost everyday.
I am totally unsure about this but the rain could have diminished the durability of my NXT wax(1 coat) until contaminants are able to bond with the paint, which normal washing cannot remove.

I would have to resort to something like ColorX/A12 CleanerWax to remove those.

You say that Nxt gets dirt off spots you missed with ColorX. This tells me that your technique is horrible. Missing spots means yopu don't have enough time or desire to do things correctly.

Yes you are right, my technique was wrong. Hopefully it's correct now.

[benhui86]

Re: ColorX fortnightly ok? (with PC?)

after u wash ur car and u find stains taht didnt go away..... i'd try quik detailer..... but usually if theres a good coat of wax on the car there shouldnt be any stains a weekly car wash cant take care of..... but yah try quik detailer if there is any....