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  • Hi! My process spelled out for those with some patience:)

    Okay guys...new member here and after 5 days of reading the forums (work? what's that?), I'm ready to have all review the process I will use to restore my car's finish.

    Toyota Camry 1992 XLE, silver metallic with cc.

    I LOVE MY CAR!

    Car has small haze/birdypoop spots, horrible swirls and scratches, some paint rubbed off in some places and a few small rust spots (about 3-5 mm). The paint was in pretty durned good shape when I bought it last October, but just 1 year of daily drivin' 90 degree plus days/high humidity but no rain along with no maintenance have done their damage.

    Two notes: I am 5'1 and weigh 105 pounds, so that influences my decisons. I don't have a g-100 (yet) so everything is influenced by the fact that I will be doing the car by hand.

    Okay, here is my process:

    1) Wash car using two-bucket method with grit guard.
    Use NXT wash using Wide-angle brush, tire brush.
    Dry with microfiber Super Suede Drying Towel to get the majority of the water off.
    Dry again with Water Magnet Drying Towel.

    2) Cut clay bar up and then clay car with smooth surface clay kit (use the detailer to spray both surface to clay and the clay itself, then clay, then wipe off small sections at a time with Ultimate Shine MF)

    3) Apply Deep Crystal Paint Cleaner first with Even-Coat applicator and see if it removes most defects. (test small area first) Remove with MF

    4) If defects still exist apply Scratch-X with High-Tech applicator pads to areas where there are remaining defects (test small area first):

    * First spread the ScratchX evenly over the area you're going to work, about a 6x6 area
    * Work the microscopic diminishing abrasives against the finish applying a little passion behind the applicator pad and after after working the product against the finish until the product has broken down, turned somewhat clear and begun to dissipate, about 2-3 minutes. Wipe immediately with SS MF or Ultimate wipe and check to see if the defect is gone.
    * Repeat this process if necessary.

    6) Apply #81 polish, working it in thoroughly but gently and remove after each area with SS MF.

    7) Apply one thin, uniform coat of NXT Paste Wax. Go inside, have lunch and a movie, let dry, remove with ss mf. Repeat. (here in humid Memphis it will take forever!)

    8) Triple detail brush for after waxing to remove dried wax from crevices.

    Continue with the rest of the car, wheels, chrome, etcetc.

    9) Thereafter maintain finish with gc quick detail pad and gc quick detail spray, possibly repeat the process every two months.

    Questions:

    1. Is it wise to use the bug/tar remover before or after washing, or will the clay get all of that?

    2. What is the difference between the Mild and Aggressive clays in the professional line? Should I consider an aggressive clay?

    3. Another member said it was okay to check the finish as you polish by wiping down the surface with something like 50/50 rubbing alcohol -- thoughts?

    4. Is it truly necessary with a car of this...uhh...caliber to tape off? Perhaps I could just use some type of lubricant to avoid the wax getting on wrong parts of the car?

    5. I need to know what to do about the rust spots on the car. I heard about a technique called feather buffing that uses small pieces of the appropriate sandpaper to buff out distinct problem areas. Is it possible for me to use a technique like that with a controlled speed drill and remove only the rust and at most .3mil of clear coat? I know to leave it to the professionals, but I am wondering what I can do about the rust NOW.

    6. I bought a supposed OEM paint pen to do some quick paint touchups. It is 176 as on my car door and is for both Lexus and Toyota in Silver Metallic 2. Whatever the case, I'll be testing it soon but my question is WHEN should I apply this paint? After I use the paint cleaner? How long do I need to wait after using touch up paint to continue on to the glaze/polish and waxing?

    I can imagine that this process will take between 15 and 20 hours, probably longer for a newbie (I gotta good arm, tho) so I might do steps 1-6 in one day and wax the next.

    THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!
    There's no wrong way to eat a Camry!

  • #2
    Hi shinyhappy,

    I'm new here too, but I've been using Meguiar's (at least the wash / wax products) since 2000. There is so much good information on these forums. I've been reading for weeks and I still haven't seen it all. I will try to answer as best I can.

    I like your methodology, I do something very similar. My car is a similar color to yours and I can't stress the test spot enough; as Mike and others will tell you "If you can make a test spot look good, you can make the whole car look good." Also be sure to inspect the test spot under different kinds of light (garage, full sun, reflected sky, etc.) because they will show different defects (at least on my car they did).

    Another thing that I did when recently restoring my cars finish was to do several different test spots. I had areas that were better or worse than others and I found it useful to know how much work was required for each different type of defect (minimizing the total work needed to get the desired results).

    On to your questions:

    1. I didn't need to do this. Anything missed by wash + clay was picked off by the cleaning step (ScratchX, #83 or #80 in my case), but there wasn't much left.

    2. Not sure, I used the quick clay and it worked very well for me. I hadn't done anything to the car for about 2 years before that.

    3. I didn't try this step (probably more a matter of time than anything else for me). I believe it is also easier to make a lighter color car look good because the defects are so much harder to see. I know they are there though because I get 2 inches from the paint but from normal viewing distance many disappear.

    4. I found taping while not necessary to be extremely useful. It was nice to be able to concentrate on the area I was working on rather than bumping something not taped off (and having to clean it later). You can really focus your attention on the paint.

    5 and 6. I'm wondering the same thing. I have a few little rust spots from rock chips and have ignored them so far

    All this being said, I recently got a G-100 and cannot recommend it enough. It saved me so much time and I really do believe I got better results than working by hand. I don't often have huge blocks of time to work on my car all in a row so I tend to work sections at a time. I prefer working from start to finish on one section to leaving it overnight because I live in a dusty area and I don't want to have to wash again, but your mileage may vary. Good luck with the restoration! And be careful, this stuff is highly addictive

    - Ben

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    • #3
      I think your basic process looks good.

      When using the Super Suede Drying Towel you won't want to wait until you've done the whole car to follow with the water Magnet. The SSDT leaves so little water behind whatever is there will dry very quickly. It's better to follow with the WM immediately after each section.

      Originally posted by shinyhappy
      1. Is it wise to use the bug/tar remover before or after washing, or will the clay get all of that?...
      Really depends on how much tar, gunk and bugs you have. Clay is usually all I need. If the build up is very heavy you may want to use B&TR after wash/before clay.

      Originally posted by shinyhappy
      2. What is the difference between the Mild and Aggressive clays in the professional line? Should I consider an aggressive clay?...
      Aggressive clay can leave marring on some (many?) finishes and is meant to be used when you'll be following up with rotary buffing.

      Originally posted by shinyhappy
      3. Another member said it was okay to check the finish as you polish by wiping down the surface with something like 50/50 rubbing alcohol -- thoughts?...
      On a silver car I'd suggest concentrating on getting the basics down first. You can try the more specialized techniques later/as needed.

      Originally posted by shinyhappy
      4. Is it truly necessary with a car of this...uhh...caliber to tape off? Perhaps I could just use some type of lubricant to avoid the wax getting on wrong parts of the car?...
      By hand it's not that big a deal. You have more control of where the product goes and there isn't any splatter (well, there shouldn't be anyway). When using a machine taping off usually saves a lot of time and work that would be wasted cleaning.

      Originally posted by shinyhappy
      5. I need to know what to do about the rust spots on the car. I heard about a technique called feather buffing that uses small pieces of the appropriate sandpaper to buff out distinct problem areas. Is it possible for me to use a technique like that with a controlled speed drill and remove only the rust and at most .3mil of clear coat? ...
      Possible? Theoretically. A good idea to try? No. Plus, to remove rust you need to remove all the clear, color, primer and rust in that spot.

      Originally posted by shinyhappy
      6. I bought a supposed OEM paint pen to do some quick paint touchups. It is 176 as on my car door and is for both Lexus and Toyota in Silver Metallic 2. Whatever the case, I'll be testing it soon but my question is WHEN should I apply this paint? After I use the paint cleaner? How long do I need to wait after using touch up paint to continue on to the glaze/polish and waxing?
      I'd go ahead and do the whole car process and then go back afterwards to address the touch-ups. If you have rusty metal showing you'll need to sand down to shiny metal on those spots. Personally, I think you should always apply primer to bare metal before painting.


      PC.

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      • #4
        Touch up paint is a pain. You wont want any wax on the spots being painted. As was mentioned, you will want to get any rust out and loose paint off of the edges. Then do not use the paint brush in the bottle. Go buy the tinest one at a craft store, and just put a few dabs to cover the spot. Let it dry for week and the paint will shrink. Then, add another few dabs over the top, let it dry and shrink. Repeat as needed. Of course it wont be perfect, but at least it wont be a huge blob.

        For bug and tar remover, I often just look over the car, and spray the Bug and Tar remover on the areas needed before washing. Then go around washing. Spray some more on after if needed. Of course it will remove any wax in the future.

        I think everything else was covered...
        2017 Subaru WRX Premium - WR Blue

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        • #5
          Thank you everyone!

          I appreciate all of you taking the time to review my "methods"...

          I'm super-excited about trying all the methods and I will be sure to take before and after pictures -- because if I can do it, it's proof positive that anyone can

          Now...where did those 15-20 hours go to, I need them TODAY!

          Thanks again!
          There's no wrong way to eat a Camry!

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