Meguiars or zaino?

[ja3mah]

I just detailed my car with Gold car wash, Scratch x, Dp 2 polish, and nrx wax. took me like 3 hours total i did this because i had a lot of spider web swirl marks. I went in the sun and i guess they faded away a little bit. Should i try now using a orbital buffer or buy some zaino products? ill load some pics of my detailing.

[F-150]

What do Zaino products have to do with anything? Scratch X is the best product to remove scratches/swirls by hand, it just takes a lot of effort, time to work in/ break down the diminishing abrasives), some elbow grease/good technique, and normally a few applications to get the desired results. And don't forget to clay in your process if needed.
If you can't remove the swirls after a few applications of scratch x and don't see a lot of improvment, you might want to step up to a G100. Even then if you're getting to tired of using scratch x but are getting good results with it after a few applications, a G100 makes everything a lot easier, applying cleaner/polishes and applying and removing wax is a breeze.

[Michael Stoops]

Trying to remove swirls from an entire vehicle using ScratchX by hand is an extremely tiring proposition. It can be done, but you'd better have arms like Popeye if you plan on surviving the experiance. If you step up to the G100 and M80 you'll most likely knock those swirls out in no time.

As far as the Zaino goes, I have nothing against their product line. I used it with great success in the past but in the end I know I can get the same results, usually in less time and for less money with Meguiar's product line. Plus I have a much, much wider selection of products for all aspects of car care, a money back guarantee, unmatched customer service and overall a customer-centric organization like nothing I've ever seen before. This company really cares about their customers and it shows, big time. That means a hell of a lot to me.

Back to removing swirls by hand: keep in mind that no matter who's products you use, swirl removal by hand is hard work. There is no magic solution, and using something that only fills in the fine scratches means they'll be back before you know it. That's a waste of time.

[OctaneGuy]

Oh it's not soooooooo bad if it's one of these!




re: Zaino
Agree. Funny that the poster would assume that Zaino would somehow remove swirls better than Meguiar's, when the product line is always touted for it's slickness, shine, and durability.

I think it's much better to learn proper techniques for the products you're using than to switch to something else.

Richard

Originally posted by Mike-in-Orange
Trying to remove swirls from an entire vehicle using ScratchX by hand is an extremely tiring proposition. It can be done, but you'd better have arms like Popeye if you plan on surviving the experiance. If you step up to the G100 and M80 you'll most likely knock those swirls out in no time.

[Michael Stoops]

Originally posted by OctaneGuy
Oh it's not soooooooo bad if it's one of these!

LOL!!! Yeah, well, a dedicated team on a tiny car compared to one guy on a normal sized car.......no comparison!!

Oh, and I failed to mention this in my previous post: ja3mah, 3 hours by hand and getting decent results is actually pretty darn impressive!!! Last Thanksgiving weekend I spent around 12-14 hours doing a full blown detail on my PT Cruiser. Sure, that was inside and out plus the engine bay, but I'm pretty sure a good 7-8 of those hours was spent on the paint. And I was using a machine!

[TrufflePig]

nothing removes swirls better than HARD WORK and PROPER TECHNIQUE!!!

BEST OF LUCK!!!

and swirls dont' fade away. they dissapear if its done right. that's what I've learnt.