Best swirl remover

[Justin Murphy]

I'm looking for a true swirl remover for moderate swirls. Alot are telling me that Meg's products have oils and fillers in them and are not truly removing the defects.

Is this true?

Need some help here. I do this for a living and I don't want swirls coming back.

Here's what I'm currently using for swirlremoving:

#80
#9 (2.0)

[SiriusRIMZ]

Re: Best swirl remover

Originally posted by justin30513
I'm looking for a true swirl remover for moderate swirls. Alot are telling me that Meg's products have oils and fillers in them and are not truly removing the defects.

Is this true?

Need some help here. I do this for a living and I don't want swirls coming back.

Here's what I'm currently using for swirlremoving:

#80
#9 (2.0)

#80 has oils that help enchance the look of your paint, and keep it prepared for a sealant/ wax. It does remove swirls through MDATs (What it Means to Remove a Scratch)
The micro abrasives work down some surrounding materials around the swirl (scratch) to even out the scratched area into a smooth plane.

If you find #80 is not working enough to remove your swirls. Try #83, its the next step up. After you use 83, follow it with a pass of 80

[Murr1525]

It is also important to know how you are applying those products. Some products are meant for hand use, some for machine use, etc. The two you mention are generaly for DA use.

And yes, Meguiars products have lots of polisshing oils in them.

For that matter, the whole idea of a polish is to fill in the microscopic defects in the paint.

However, when worked properly, #9, #80, ScratchX, etc will actualy remove the swirls as well.

Also, you can use a 50:50 solution of alchol and water and wipe the panel down after you detail. This will remove any oil filling in a defect, so you can see if they are all gone or not.

[Top Down]

It's a long thread, but Mike shows proof that their stuff will remove swirls if used correctly. The thread should answer your questions if you read through it.
Question about #80 - Does it contain heavy fillers?

[Justin Murphy]

Originally posted by Top Down
It's a long thread, but Mike shows proof that their stuff will remove swirls if used correctly. The thread should answer your questions if you read through it.
Question about #80 - Does it contain heavy fillers?

That thread was AWESOME!

Thanks to TD and Mike for that.
#80 will remain my main staple in my business. I really don't think there is anything out there that can touch it. I think others pay 50+ bucks for a swirl remover and do not want to believe you can get better results with a product half the price.

Thanks guys.

[LiquidBlack]

For medium swirling, I use #83 + g100 speed 5 w8006 pad (say, for vehicles where the user washes in automatic washes and uses improper washing techniques).

I use #80 + g100 speed 5 w8006 pad for maintenance, as my soft toyota paint gets a little cobwebby after a few months.

If you havent tried #83 out, I highly recommend it. Sometimes you will run into situations where it would require multiple passes with #80 to fix, whereas it would take 1 pass of #83 to correct.

*edit*
I should also note that while #83 is stronger than #80, it is still very mild/very safe to use.

[Jbirk]

All of the Meguiar's products are safe to use for the most part. Obviously, wet sanding and rotory work are the exception.

Even then, in proper hands, it can be done safely.

#83 and #80 with the 8000 series pads are safe for just about anyone with a G100.

Try #80 in a test spot. Unless you have bad swirls or hard paint, #80 will work fine.

If #80 works but doesn't fully remove the problem with a normal amount of effort, then try #83 in a test spot. If that works, do you entire car in #83 then #80 becuase #80 is like #83 only already more broken down.

There is also #82 and #81 but they are special. I cannot remmeber what each one does, but at least one is weaker than #80.

#84 and #85 are both stronger than #83. Hopefully, you don't need anything stronger than #83.

[RamAirV1]

Originally posted by Jbirk
All of the Meguiar's products are safe to use for the most part. Obviously, wet sanding and rotory work are the exception.

Even then, in proper hands, it can be done safely.

#83 and #80 with the 8000 series pads are safe for just about anyone with a G100.

Try #80 in a test spot. Unless you have bad swirls or hard paint, #80 will work fine.

If #80 works but doesn't fully remove the problem with a normal amount of effort, then try #83 in a test spot. If that works, do you entire car in #83 then #80 becuase #80 is like #83 only already more broken down.

There is also #82 and #81 but they are special. I cannot remmeber what each one does, but at least one is weaker than #80.

#84 and #85 are both stronger than #83. Hopefully, you don't need anything stronger than #83.

#82 and #81 are both weaker than #80. #81 is a pure polish.

RamAirV1

[Kickin Griffin]

It is my understanding that, as above, #80 contains oils that will act to mask swirls as well as removing them - but it also contins mild abbrassives and after an IPA wipe I generally find that #80 has done a very good job of genuinely removing the swirls - though the IPA wipe strips the glazing oils of the #80 away and reduces the gloss of the shine a little I find. I love #80 for the deep glossy shine it leaves, I gnerally also combine it with #7 in a 50/50 mix and use as a finishing polish after #83 if I use #83 on more severe swirls.