tried 83 with g100 to remove swirls and....

[tripmachine]

they still remain on my black car.... went over a section twice on the hood..i was going very slowly putting about 20 lbs of pressure .... i passed it twice each time i went over it and over lapped 50%..... the swirls lightened up....or it seems they aren't as severe as the other sections...... but still that's a TON of work to remove just some of them.... any ideas? do i need a rotary? would a rotary help out and make it easier with removing the swirls? I want my car to look like Joe detailed it...... but i want to do it myself.

thanks

-j0sh

[bullet1]

How long were you working the 83 on the section? I see you say you passed twice, are you saying you just went over the spot twice or you used 2 applications for 3-5 minutes on each section?

I've found that beginners, like myself don't work 83 in long enough for it to do its job. I just created this thread earlier today from my experience with 83.

http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13871

If you are working the product for a while and using the correct technique the paint is probably too hard for a PC to do the job and a Rotary is going to be your best option.

[SVT Lightning]

If you've never used a rotary before, you sure don't want to learn on black paint on your own car. It would be best to have a pro do it, then you can maintain it with the PC.

[MB///HRV]

What pad are you using? Did you shake the product before use?

[KTruck]

Hi:

Since you live near the Meguiar's home office, sign up for a Wednesday night and have them look at the paint.

You will be able to work on your car with help from Meguiar's.
They will be able to determine what steps are needed to correct your paint.

Regards,

KTruck

[Michael Stoops]

Originally posted by bullet1
How long were you working the 83 on the section? I see you say you passed twice, are you saying you just went over the spot twice or you used 2 applications for 3-5 minutes on each section?

Exactly what I was thinking, and there is a huge difference between the two!

Josh, haven't I seen you at a Meguiar's Wednesday night session? If not, you really should pop in as suggested by KTruck. And yes, even when done correctly it's still a fair amount of work to fully polish a car, especially a black one!

[Mike Phillips]

Sometimes the problem is technique, sometimes it has to do with the paint, but in the end, it's going to come down to one or the other.

If you're new to machine polishing, then it's likely the first.

I may be teaching the Saturday class this weekend if Lynn aggrees... it's our anniversary weekend but all of the other guys have conflicting schedules and I hate to try to reschedule a class for 40 people.

[tripmachine]

Originally posted by Mike-in-Orange
Exactly what I was thinking, and there is a huge difference between the two!

Josh, haven't I seen you at a Meguiar's Wednesday night session? If not, you really should pop in as suggested by KTruck. And yes, even when done correctly it's still a fair amount of work to fully polish a car, especially a black one!

actually i haven't been to a wednesday class... i'll be going though on the 28th :] then is when i'll learn what i'm doing wrong... i think it's probably my technique and not speding enough time on each section....... wow... if i charge people to polish out a car i sure better raise my prices.... ;]

[tripmachine]

Originally posted by Mike Phillips
Sometimes the problem is technique, sometimes it has to do with the paint, but in the end, it's going to come down to one or the other.

If you're new to machine polishing, then it's likely the first.

I may be teaching the Saturday class this weekend if Lynn aggrees... it's our anniversary weekend but all of the other guys have conflicting schedules and I hate to try to reschedule a class for 40 people.

hey Mike... thanks for the response..... so this saturdays class for the my350z.com users might not be cancelled??? keep me informed :] i was looking forward to it..

thanks!

-j0sh

[Michael Stoops]

Originally posted by tripmachine
i'll be going though on the 28th :] then is when i'll learn what i'm doing wrong

Yep, that's what I did and man oh man did I learn a lot! Mike Phillips gave me some really good hands on instruction and I've been able to kind of surprise myself with what I can do now.

You just gotta love this place!!