A brand new car with a problem!

[gollums_friend]

How can I tell when I have ALL the wax off of these areas? Right now, they still look the same as the rest of the car (except for the cloudiness, of course).

[STG]

Re: A brand new car with a problem!

Originally posted by gollums_friend
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I've faithfully handwashed/dried my car every weekend since placing the LeBra cover (4 weeks ago). I removed the cover today to wash the car underneath and was shocked to discover ......

I'm at a loss for what to do. I don't know why this happened, or what these "white cloudy" spots are even called or caused from,.......

You basically wrote that you put a bra on your car, washed it once a week for 4 weeks and then removed it.

No, no, no, no!

Put the bra on, drive the car, and take it off. On a daily driver, YOU MUST REMOVE THE BRA WHEN IT GETS WET AND CERTAINLY WHEN YOU WASH THE CAR. (I'll bet the instruction sheet for your bra says that.)

P.S.: I've NEVER heard of wax trapping moisture in or on the paint.

Before you do something silly, ask Mike Phillips or Joe (Superior Shine).

[gollums_friend]

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Well......two of us in this thread alone have had it happen. We're not making it up.

Yes, days ago I contaceted Meg's via email and asked them about it along with any suggestions. The reply I received? To use ScratchX. When I told them it didn't work and described what the car looked like a second time, they agreed that it sounded like "trapped moisture" and recommended a rubbing compound and using a buffer.

I'm not a body shop employee, don't own a garage or have access to all kind of cool toys. As of right now, I'm limited to using a wax remover that I finally found and purchased, along with the hair dryer idea. I'll be trying it this friday. The worse thing that can happen from trying this is to be removing wax on my car. When it doesn't work, I'll be taking it in to the paint shop at dealership and paying God knows what to have them repaint the entire hood.

[Mikeyc]

OK. This is my last post in this thread. Polishing will not fix this problem. It may dull it a little, but not much. Try the hair dryer. Also, check the instructions that came with your bra it probably mentions this remedy as well.

It's hard to say you definitely have the same problem I had without seeing your car, but chances are good if you never remove the bra. STG was 100% correct that it's a bad idea to leave a bra on a car for long periods especially if it's wet.

[Mikeyc]

Some edits I wanted to make to my last post but the system wouldn't allow it . . .

OK. This is my last post in this thread. Polishing will not fix this problem. It may dull it a little, but not much. Try the hair dryer. Also, check the instructions that came with your bra it probably mentions this remedy as well.

The moisture is trapped in the paint. The wax is merely helping to keep it trapped. It is not the culprit. Wax is hydrophobic. Therefore it repels water. The direction the water is coming from is irrelevent. The moisture could come from above or below the wax layer and it would still be repelled. Removing the wax will therefore help to remove the moisture faster.

It's hard to say you definitely have the same problem I had without seeing your car, but chances are good if you never remove the bra. STG was 100% correct that it's a bad idea to leave a bra on a car for long periods especially if it's wet.

On another note, I'm slightly insulted that it was insinuated that since my name is not Mike Phillips or Joe that I don't know what I'm talking about.

[gollums_friend]

Originally posted by Mikeyc

On another note, I'm slightly insulted that it was insinuated that since my name is not Mike Phillips or Joe that I don't know what I'm talking about.

I never said that, nor did I even THINK it. I'm brand new to this forum and came here--a public forum--to get any and all suggestions, not get from a select few people.....the names you mentioned mean nothing to me, so you're wrong.

I read the instructions that came with the car bra many times before installing it, and many times since this problem occured. There IS mention of moisture occuring....there IS NO mention on a remedy or what to do if it occurs.

I was never under the assumption that polishing would fix this problem (I assume you are trying to correct me because I tried the ScratchX product days ago?) For more than 2 days now, I said that I was planning to use a proper wax remover and the hair dryer. I also said I couldn't try the idea until tomarrow (friday).

I apologise that you think I haven't appreciated your help, along with anyone else I may have offended.

[Mikeyc]

Originally posted by gollums_friend
I never said that, nor did I even THINK it. I'm brand new to this forum and came here--a public forum--to get any and all suggestions, not get from a select few people.....the names you mentioned mean nothing to me, so you're wrong.

I read the instructions that came with the car bra many times before installing it, and many times since this problem occured. There IS mention of moisture occuring....there IS NO mention on a remedy or what to do if it occurs.

I was never under the assumption that polishing would fix this problem (I assume you are trying to correct me because I tried the ScratchX product days ago?) For more than 2 days now, I said that I was planning to use a proper wax remover and the hair dryer. I also said I couldn't try the idea until tomarrow (friday).

I apologise that you think I haven't appreciated your help, along with anyone else I may have offended.

I wasn't referring to you.

All I was saying is that I have experience with fixing this problem. I gave advice and then someone (not you) decides to jump in and say don't mess around with these guys only listen to Mike or Joe.

[Mobilejoe]

Mikeyc,

Gollums_friend did not post that it was from STG. I feel you have given very good advise on the situation. I hope the area clears up for gollums_friend but who knows as only time will tell for now.

STG,

I will agree that Mike Phillips and Joe from Superior Shine are some of the best people in the detailing world but there are others on this forum I would trust and follow their advise with no problems. I agree with your post on leaving the bra on for long periods of time and when it's wet.

[SoCalE46]

Re: A brand new car with a problem!

MikeC, you are a savior!!! My M3 with a nose mask was caught in a freak rain storm followed by sunny/hot condition, resulting in some hazing/cloudiness on the hood. I tried everything but to no avail until I saw your posting about the hair-dryer. I cleaned the area with 50/50 alcohol water solution then used the hair-dryer and voila!, good as new!! Thanks much for posting your solution!