Car show swirls

[74 thing]

I have been to two car shows in the last month and there have only been a handful of cars without swirls! It amazes me that someone can own a very expensive car with thousands of dollars in the paint job alone, but he does not have a competent detailer. I think I remember where Mike Phillips said he was at Barrett Jackson earlier in the year and something like 80% of the cars up for auction had swirls and they were very noticable on the stage with good lighting. Do the owners and judges even notice these defects or is it they just do not have the knowledge on how to take care of the problem?

[BlueTooth]

I believe that bidders would look for that to show awentisity (poor spelling but i hope u get the idea), as one guy put it, Id rather see the car caked in dirt rather than polished to perfection. I just thought that was interesting to hear on barret jackson. as far as car shows I dont know it could be the same thing...

[74 thing]

I don't know how you can get a good score from the judges if your car is dirty and full of swirls unless it is voted by spectators who probably don't know what orange peel and swirls are until you point it out to them. Might be a good way to solicit business by talking to the owners and passing out business cards.

[Ezmoney95]

I can vouch for Mike's comments about Barrett Jackson.

I was there on Friday and in walking around I could not believe the condition of the paint on some of the vehicles.

A detailer could have made a killing during the show correcting all the defects that I saw.

To me the condition of the paint reflects the pride of ownership of the vehicle.

With today's new car prices its make all the more sense to take the best care of what you bought.

[jumpmanmb87]

Hey, do you own a classic show car?? do you know what it takes to own one and to take care of them?? also many classic car owners are older and its very difficult for a 50-60yr old person to keep these cars spotless. I understand that the swirls are a issue but these guys KNOW THERE CARS, and arent gunna waste their time and money to have some pro detail their car when they drive it about a couple weekends a year. Most car guys do EVERYTHING THEMSELVES and dont reley on other ppl. Also if you had a car worth over $30,000 would you wanna leave it at some detailers shop? no. You would want it tucked away in your garage.

Im not knockin your idea of swirls but thats how I see it as a classic car owner myself and just like the rest of my family.

[zeefauna]

Originally posted by jumpmanmb87
Also if you had a car worth over $30,000 would you wanna leave it at some detailers shop?

I would... Mine's not a classic car, but its worth more than that here... In fact, i'd detail it myself and would leave it to a pro should there be one around here....

[jumpmanmb87]

Yea you just said it, you dont own one. Also while your car goes down in value those go up everyday with swirls or not, and 30,000 was a low price seeing that a real mint classic car cannot be bought for less than 50,000.

[TH0001]

jumpmanmb87, you kinda seem like your talking down to him. I don't know if thats true, but your coming across like a jerk.

That said, LOL at a 1974 Nova being a "classic" car. Being old doesn't make something classic, IMO, it just makes it old. And even with 50,000 dollars in parts, it will never be worth 30,000.

So you don't know what its like to own a classic car either.

[TH0001]

PS does your signature really say Cash Money Millionare, hahaha. Now I understand why you seem like your talking down.... You don't know better.

[N.E.W.car]

Alas, now you are speaking down to him. I think he came across like a jerk as well, but he never claimed to own a $50,000 car either.

Sure, I don't agree with him either - but if you are going to join the argument, please don't practice what you are judging.

Swirls in a REAL show car are horrible - why not pay a pro detailer a few hundred dollars and go that one last step? Well, honestly, a lot of people see right through the swirls so it doesn't really matter anyway.

We can talk about it all we want on MOL, but in reality Joe Q Public (even the guy with the blank check at a Barret-Jackson auction) isn't going to notice the mojority of swirls.

[STG]

Come on guys! Leave a $30K or $50K car at a detailer's shop? Why not?

What can you buy for under $30,000?

The last Barrett-Jackson auction had a former Riddler Award winner sell for a really low price.

The overhead camera clearly showed rotary holograms as the car rolled of the stage.

[Mike Phillips]

Originally posted by jumpmanmb87
Yea you just said it, you don't own one. Also while your car goes down in value those go up everyday with swirls or not, and 30,000 was a low price seeing that a real mint classic car cannot be bought for less than 50,000.

This thread is taking on an ugly tone that will not be tolerated on this forum. It's possible to discuss just about any topic on this forum while still keeping the thread positive.


I don't have time to babysit this thread today as in a couple of hours I have a class to teach, so until I can clean this thread up and then watch it for troublemakers, it is officially closed.

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[Mike Phillips]

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Re: Car show swirls

Originally posted by 74 thing
the paint job alone, but he does not have a competent detailer. I think I remember where Mike Phillips said he was at Barrett Jackson earlier in the year and something like 80% of the cars up for auction had swirls and they were very noticeable on the stage with good lighting.

I think I posted it was more like 90% of the cars, even 95% of them were Swirl City, most closer to the horrific side versus only light swirls.

It's hard for detailing enthusiasts to understand how all these really cool cars can be so filled with swirls, but just look at what Joe documented here and accept that this is just how the industry operates until someone like Joe is hired to clean it all up.

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