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  • Paul Dalton (The '£6000' wax guy from the UK)

    We've talked about him before, he's the '£6000' wax guy from the UK. I was watching his video and going over the original thread and found somethings interesting.

    Video here

    Thread here

    Contrary to what many had to say about him in the original thread, this guy's pretty darn good. Of course, it's nothing that the likes of Mike, Tim, Joe and many others can't accomplish. We've seen the amazing work they can do

    What I found interesting is that according to the video, Paul Dalton uses a rotary buffer to remove the paint defects followed by polish that's applied by an hand applicator, followed by wax that's applied using his bare hands. Yet he manages to get that flawless finish.

    Some pictures from his website:

    Before:


    After:


    Another

    Before:



    After:






    Some questions:
    1. Any particular reason he's stuck to using a Carnauba wax? (That too, mainly Zymol's $2000 - $10000 waxes)
    - Are there any Meguiar's waxes that contain a level as high as 73% Carnauba?

    2. Any particular reason he's stuck to using only Zymol products?

    3. How does he manage to get that finish using a rotary buffer?

    He charges about £500 - £600 ($935 - $1120 US) which isn't too bad considering the products he uses cost so much (mainly the Wax and Polish, the clay is simply $15 Sonax clay) and that in the UK it's pretty much £ for $ (meaning a British Pound for them is like a US dollar to us). People in the US/Canada charge at least $500 for a detail that good, maybe even more, especially if it's an exotic car.

    Your thoughts.
    Last edited by zr123; May 24, 2006, 04:45 PM.
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    He seems like an amazing detailer, but it really makes no sense why he would use his hands over a quality foam applicator. I'm pretty sure, at least for my palms, that they would do more harm than good.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by LiquidBlack
      He seems like an amazing detailer, but it really makes no sense why he would use his hands over a quality foam applicator. I'm pretty sure, at least for my palms, that they would do more harm than good.


      But I will say the photos look darn good! I guess if you have the car, the money and are willing to spend... go for it.
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      • #4
        I'm curious as to what paint correction products he uses. Meguiars? Carlack? Menzerna?

        I also find it funny he talks about himself in the third person on the website.
        Trust me...Your patience will be rewarded...

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        • #5
          Seems like Mr. Dalton is a very good at what he does.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by LiquidBlack
            He seems like an amazing detailer, but it really makes no sense why he would use his hands over a quality foam applicator. I'm pretty sure, at least for my palms, that they would do more harm than good.
            He's not the one that decided that, Zymol recommends you apply their waxes with your bare hands.

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            • #7
              He has a great thing going there. I would charge that if I could.

              I wonder where does it go from fair price to scam?

              We shine 99.9% vehicles we do for under $1000.

              I guess I am under charging!!









              Last edited by Superior Shine; May 24, 2006, 08:13 PM.
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              • #8
                Re: Paul Dalton (The '£6000' wax guy from the UK)

                Originally posted by zr123

                Some questions:
                1. Any particular reason he's stuck to using a Carnauba wax? (That too, mainly Zymol's $2000 - $10000 waxes)
                It's because Zaino doesn't cost $10,000.
                Mr. Miyagi says: "Wax on, wax off"

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                • #9
                  Joe,

                  There's no doubt that your work is by far amongst the best out there, if not the best . I think a big portion of the reason Paul charges so much is because his products cost an arm and a leg. Well at least the wax does. I'd assume to think that if he was using Meguiar's products his pricing would be somewhat closer to what people charge in the US/Canada. But then again, lets not forget it's Dollar for Pound, or Pound for Dollar. In the UK they spend a Pound like how we spend a Dollar, so it makes sense to be charging 500 - 600, dispite the currency difference.

                  By the way, the cars you detailed in Vegas, did they by chance belong to a hotel owner? - Just curious
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                  • #10
                    Thanks for the comliments.


                    You have a point there about price.

                    I pay about $50 for a half gallon of #21.



                    Thats funny, everybody asks me if he is a hotel owner -

                    I guess that is were th ebig money is. No, the Vegas guy is in the medical insurance business I think.
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                    • #11
                      How many thousands more does it cost to get your tires dressed??

                      Last edited by Superior Shine; May 25, 2006, 04:05 AM.
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                      • #12
                        i dont think he's any better than any other good detailer

                        where he is better is at telling everyone how fantastic his services are..remeber alot of folk think more expensive = better job ..he's just hit jackpot as far as good marketing goes

                        im just a average home detail guy...but i could have a pro take pictures of any of my work and have them look as good, after all with the right products and training (thanks mike ) anyone can achive these results..and alot cheaper too

                        when i watched the show i noticed stuff like washing in direct sun, using the rotary instead of a pc , using a sponge ..and my rough hands would certainly not be good for waxing

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                        • #13
                          Have any of you seen that show on SpeedTV, it's called Unique Whips, based on the tuner shop Unique Autosport. Basically they do interior mods, custom wheels, sound systems, the usual. No Chip Foose or Rad Rides stuff. What they actually do is charge a heck of a lot of money...why? because their high profile customers demand it. These people would not be content with some "regular" shop to their work, even if it's only mounting a set of 20K wheels, NO, these people have to brag about how much $$$$ they spent on their "custom" ride....it's all about the benjamins....

                          Alex
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                          • #14
                            something to remember about his product costs. most of those Zymol high $$ waxes are sold with free lifetime refills .. not sure if that appies to a professional, but if so .. then at some point, he is sure making some extra coin. telling people he is using $7,500 wax, but not mentioning that he hasn't paid for a refill in 6 years.

                            more power to him, if he has people that will pay him liek that.
                            Doug

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Gipraw
                              something to remember about his product costs. most of those Zymol high $$ waxes are sold with free lifetime refills .. not sure if that appies to a professional, but if so .. then at some point, he is sure making some extra coin. telling people he is using $7,500 wax, but not mentioning that he hasn't paid for a refill in 6 years.

                              more power to him, if he has people that will pay him liek that.
                              I think someone calculated how long you have to use the wax assuming a weekly use basis in order to break even(including the cost for shipping back and forth) and it came out to 40 something years.
                              I want 4" Softbuff pads!

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