Spider-webbing

[fordfan]

Whats the best way to get rid of "spider-webs" on the car? I have tried M80 and lots of scratchx but they never go away on my black car. anyway to get rid of them there not that bad but they bother me.

[Snowman]

Have you tried moving up a notch to using M83 or M84 on the swirls? Or even M02 or M09. Also, how are you applying the product?

[fordfan]

im using a rotary

[Snowman]

Well I am sure someone with rotary skill will come along shortly to help you but as for me I have yet to even handle that machine so I don't want to give you false info since I don't know how the products work with that form of application.

[Mikeyc]

What kind of pad are you using to apply the polish? What speed are you using? What kind of car is this?

[fordfan]

im using a cheap backing pad that cam with it (not meguiars

[Murr1525]

Well, I am not an expert with a rotary, but I can give a little general advice till an expert comes along.

On any car, esp black, it is hard to have a rotary be the final step. You almost always will need to step down to something more gentle before finishing.

[Accumulator]

I wonder if the spiderwebbing is something that your rotary efforts are unable to correct (if so, use a more aggressive pad/product combo) or if they're something the rotary efforts are *causing* (if so, work on your technique and/or use a milder pad). I'd bet on the former unless you're doing something very strange since #80 is a pretty mild product.

I'd try something more aggressive, such as the #83 or the #2 as previously suggested. Plan on doing a follow up with the #80 via PC/g-100 to correct minor imperfections from the rotary work.

[OctaneGuy]

Re: Spider-webbing

Can you show us some pix?

Do they look anything like this? These are buffer swirls





Or does it look more like this?



In any case, with just a few minutes of the rotary with M83 followed by the PC with M83, then M80, it can be like this





Is your car a daily driver? Black is very tough to maintain. What do you do for maintenance? Do you use Quik Detailer with a microfiber towel? Is the car garaged?

Richard

Originally posted by fordfan
Whats the best way to get rid of "spider-webs" on the car? I have tried M80 and lots of scratchx but they never go away on my black car. anyway to get rid of them there not that bad but they bother me.

[SprintKing]

as said above

#83 & #80 are a tried and tested winning combination
if #83 isnt working with a yellow polishing pad perhaps consider moving up to a maroon cutting pad.

Good Luck & dont forget to post some pics of your progress

[Mike Phillips]

Originally posted by fordfan
im using a cheap backing pad that cam with it (not meguiars

The backing pad is not really important as it either holds the pad onto the buffer or it doesn't. What's more important is the pad that you're using. The thing coming in contact with the paint.

The backing pad, or plate doesn't come into contact with the finish and if it does it's not going to look pretty.

[Mike Phillips]

Originally posted by fordfan
im using a rotary

It's pretty hard to achieve a 100% swirl-free finish if your last step process is using a rotary buffer.

It can be done, but the finishing pad must be foam and the finishing product must be either a very fine cleaner/polish or a pure polish and even then, if you wash the car or wipe the car down with a solvent of some type to remove any leftover residues you'll often be able to see the tale-tale signs of swirls.

If you're truly looking to produce a swirl-free finish then you're going to need to make your last step process either by hand or by using a dual action polisher.

Please read these two threads all the way through and then you'll understand everything.


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