Do Meg car washes contain any wax

[jahnker]

Hi all, just want to find out if any of the Meg wash products contain any wax? I have Wurth Autoshamtwo which is a PH balanced wash and it contains wax. After washing the car you can see the water beading off the finish...

[Mike Phillips]

No.

We used to offer a Wash 'N Wax in our Detailer Line, however we have discontinued that item.

[jahnker]

Is it true that if you wash with a product like wash and wax that you get a wax build up? I have seen a company advertising that. BTW, why did Meg discontinue that product? Was there not enough demand for it?

[furball]

My friend told me that he once used a wash+wax product, but was unhappy with it. Since the sun's really strong in this region, it spots really quick. He's now using a regular wash shampoo, no wax.

[Jeff Smith]

Originally posted by furball
My friend told me that he once used a wash+wax product, but was unhappy with it. Since the sun's really strong in this region, it spots really quick. He's now using a regular wash shampoo, no wax.

I had a jug of some wash & wax but gave it away. What I noticed was that it would apply the wax in patches. I could actually tell that it left some areas unwaxed and others waxed. I guess in large part due to poor surface prep. It was especially noticable on my windows. I'd see a large, say 1'x1' area that you could tell was covered with wax. Then the entire area around that was uncovered.

[Mike Phillips]

Originally posted by jahnker
Is it true that if you wash with a product like wash and wax that you get a wax build up? I have seen a company advertising that.

Because wax wears off, (It's supposed to, type the words sacrificial Barrier into the search engine on this forum), it's really impossible to get a wax build-up.

So it's not true, at least not for a product like this. What's strange is how in the past, to get a wax build-up was a negative thing, now it's a sought after feature. That said, no one has ever proven that a measurable thickness is being created by adding more and more layers of any paint protective product after the 2nd or 3rd coat. There's a lot hot air out there... but no scientific data, at least that anyone has come forward to present.

BTW, why did Meg discontinue that product? Was there not enough demand for it?

It was a good product, I rather liked it for washing the Milk Truck back in Oregon, it didn't sell in huge numbers and was kind of a niche product and I think that's why it was decided to let her go...

[Setec Astronomy]

Originally posted by Mike Phillips


So it's not true, at least not for a product like this. What's strange is how in the past, to get a wax build-up was a negative thing, now it's a sought after feature.

I actually remember it the other way around...like with furniture polish, when I was a kid Pledge had WAX in it. More recently, furniture polishes claim something like "no wax--no more waxy buildup!". But I WANTED wax on my furniture...otherwise, what is the point? Of course, I fixed them, I just use Meguiar's waxes on my furniture now...

It was a good product, I rather liked it for washing the Milk Truck back in Oregon...

But Mike...what is that...er...vehicle next to your milk truck?

[Tim Lingor]

Hey,

I really wish that Meguiar's would have continued to make their Wash 'N Wax D-2201 as I just LOVE the stuff for washing my Travel Trailer!!! It leaves a beautiful finish and the product itself smells awesome!! The little I have left will be treated like gold!

Tim

[Mike Phillips]

Originally posted by Setec Astronomy
I actually remember it the other way around...like with furniture polish, when I was a kid Pledge had WAX in it. More recently, furniture polishes claim something like "no wax--no more waxy buildup!". But I WANTED wax on my furniture...otherwise, what is the point? Of course, I fixed them, I just use Meguiar's waxes on my furniture now...

Hi Mike,

Your memory is probably better than mine, so I'll defer to you on the wax build-up issue with furniture products as I only remember the commercials for Pledge that talked about no wax build-up...

I do know that Meguiar's started out as a Furniture Polish Company offering Furniture Cleaner and Furniture Polish, neither of which contained any wax and could not build up, nor cause any re-finishing problems in the future should the peice of furniture need to be re-finished.



Just to note, Meguiar's pioneered the use of diminishing abrasives as far back as 1901 when they introduced their Furniture Cleaner as a way to clean and remove defects from fine finished wood without the risk of instilling swirls and scratches or scouring the finish.

But Mike...what is that...er...vehicle next to your milk truck?

That's a 1950 Studebaker Starlight Coupe that belonged to a couple we met in Puyallup, Washington at a Good Guys Show that Lynn and I had a booth at one summer. We ended up making some very good friends and cruised the show together in each other's hot rods.

What was most interesting about this Carson Topped, custom convertible Studebaker is that the owners father owns the exact model, purchased new with almost no miles on it.

We were invited to their house during the show that weekend and it was so cool to see the two cars, (Father and Son's cars), parked next to each other and so completely opposite of each other. One out of a time capsule, and the other with a fire breathing, small block Chevy engine with wild Chrome Yellow paint and white tuck & roll interior.

The Milk Truck by the way was the only Vendor owned rig that was allowed onto the fairgrounds to park and cruise with the rest of the hot rod community while all the delivery vans and trucks owned by all the other vendors were parked down the road in a field, that was cool.

The Milk Truck also found it's way into some photos inside the follow-up edition of the Good Guys magazine that covered that event.

[jahnker]

Would it to any harm (to the best of your knowledge) if I mixed Meguiars (to get the sudsing action) and the wash and wax product (to get the wax) together and then use that? Then I would have the best of both worlds. Sudsing action and a thin coating of wax

[Tim Lingor]

Hey,

I would recommend against doing that. Meguiar's products are designed to work on their own. By altering their chemistry, it is not possible to predict the results. With that said, it is possible that it may work fine as you do not know until you try! But again, the Meg product is not being used as intended and therefore the results can not be predicted.

Cheers!

Tim

[Mike Phillips]

Creating a wash solution that also leaves behind a protective coating is a lot more complex than just pouring one product out of one bottle and mixing it with another product poured out of another bottle.

I've seen our Wash 'N Wax for sale from time to time in various places so it is possible to still locate some.

You can also post this as an idea in the New Product Suggestion forum.

http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=32

[jahnker]

I understand your reasoning here. Thank you for the reply and I will post a request via the link you provided.

Thank you all for the input

[Pete-FWA]

http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10175

Now I'm confused

[Superior Shine]

I just gave 4 gallons of wash and wax away. I didn't care for it.