For SoCal guys Crystal Cove is Dead. :(

[MaximusZTS]

Re: For SoCal guys Crystal Cove is Dead.

Well I heard talk of them moving the whole thing to Fasion Island.

[STG]

Re: For SoCal guys Crystal Cove is Dead.

The event was held on private property. What right do a bunch of car guys have to demand its continuation?

If the owner of the property doesn't want it, that's it. I'd love to see a few gold-chain wearing southern California Lambo owners engage in civil disobedience and get arrested for tresspassing. I can picture them handcuffed in zip ties being led away as a choir of hot-rodders sing "We Shall Overcome."

As a former southern California Planning Commissioner, I'm always amazed at the public's view of private property. Many actually believe:

They can use other people's property for their own purposes, with or without permission.

Their use of someone else's property is more important than the owner's right to do nothing with it.

Owning a condominium on Pacific Coast Highway somehow entitles you not to hear traffic noise, despite the fact that you are 22 ft. from the roadway and always keep your windows open.



If you want to hold an event for 600 vehicles, rent your own space, pay for traffic control, security, clean up, and insurance.

[STG]

Re: For SoCal guys Crystal Cove is Dead.

"How are they going to stop their patrons from coming in?" asked Marc Greeley, co-founder of the event. "Am I going to drive in and they're going to say, 'No, you're a car guy, get out of here'?"


This guy's arrogance is off the chart.

1. Limit parking to hours of store operation.

2. Limit parking to 30 minutes while shopping.

3. If Marc Greely can't produce a receipt, tow is his custom rod/sportscar/whatever away with the oldest, nastiest tow truck you can find. Even if he buys something from the shopping center, tow his ride after 31 minutes.

[STG]

Re: For SoCal guys Crystal Cove is Dead.

So is it going to be contested?

On what grounds? Has there been new legislation passed in California since I moved away?

I know. They could move the event to Santa Monica and claim all the partipants are homeless. Just put some fast food trash in the cars. Look! I'm living out of my car!

They could meet at Ocean Park. Same view, and Santa Monica P.D. won't lift a finger to move the homeless out of a public park. Heck, they won't even remove them from private property.

[STG]

Re: For SoCal guys Crystal Cove is Dead.

The event was held on private property. What right do a bunch of car guys have to demand its continuation?

If the owner of the property doesn't want it, that's it. I'd love to see a few gold-chain wearing southern California Lambo owners engage in civil disobedience and get arrested for tresspassing. I can picture them handcuffed in zip ties being led away as a choir of hot-rodders sing "We Shall Overcome."

As a former southern California Planning Commissioner, I'm always amazed at the public's view of private property. Many actually believe:

They can use other people's property for their own purposes, with or without permission.

Their use of someone else's property is more important than the owner's right to do nothing with it.

Owning a condominium on Pacific Coast Highway somehow entitles you not to hear traffic noise, despite the fact that you are 22 ft. from the roadway and always keep your windows open.



If you want to hold an event for 600 vehicles, rent your own space, pay for traffic control, security, clean up, and insurance.

[DaGonz]

Re: For SoCal guys Crystal Cove is Dead.

hmmm.. I see a perfect opportunity for Meguiar's to host the event on their property, and welcome a new group of enthuisiasts to their product line!

[MaximusZTS]

Re: For SoCal guys Crystal Cove is Dead.

"How are they going to stop their patrons from coming in?" asked Marc Greeley, co-founder of the event. "Am I going to drive in and they're going to say, 'No, you're a car guy, get out of here'?"

So is it going to be contested?

[Newport Viper]

And the Irvine Company killed it.

Tuesday, October 3, 2006
Auto event hits bump in road
Irvine Co. says gathering held at Crystal Cove Promenade needs to move on.


By JEFF OVERLEY

The Orange County Register

NEWPORT BEACH – Gentlemen, start your engines somewhere else.

That's the message being delivered to a popular weekly gathering of auto aficionados, who every Saturday morning for the past three years have filled the Crystal Cove Promenade shopping center with Ferraris, Lamborghinis, Porsches and the like.

What began as a small sunrise powwow among friends has blossomed into a spectacle with 200 exotic cars and 600 spectators. The event now boasts a glossy newsletter, a Web site, even a small apparel line.

The get-together, officials say, may have become a victim of its own success.

The Irvine Co., which owns the shopping center, on Monday announced that after Oct. 14, it would no longer allow the event to be held on its property because of the size and noise complaints from adjacent neighborhoods.

"This started off as a small, loose-knit gathering," company spokesman Bill Rams said. "Over the last three years, it's evolved into this large-scale event."

Despite an order to decamp, organizers are vowing a fight.

"How are they going to stop their patrons from coming in?" asked Marc Greeley, co-founder of the event. "Am I going to drive in and they're going to say, 'No, you're a car guy, get out of here'?"

For some time, the Irvine Co. has blocked the center's entrance until 7 a.m. to keep things quiet during pre-dawn hours.

This year, police stepped up patrols and ticketed speeders leaving the two-hour gathering, resulting in a mellower event, said Bill Hartford, Police Department spokesman.

And Greeley says he's put the kibosh on efforts by local car dealers to use the Saturday event as a virtual showroom.

Some nearby residents say they enjoy and even attend the gathering. "I don't have any problem with it at all; I think it's great," said Josh Sitea.

But homeowner Raul Varela was among those who described a Saturday morning din of revving engines. "It's a complete deterioration of the peace and quiet that the coast is supposed to be about," Varela said.

The search is on for a new venue, but supporters expect an uphill drive.

"It's tough to find. You've got to find a place you can put 200 cars and 600 people and it doesn't bother anybody," said Newport Beach Councilman Ed Selich, who occasionally brings his black 1949 MG sports car to the event and appreciates the prime Crystal Cove views.

"And that was a great location. How do you find another location that even compares?"

http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/news/local/article_1295069.php