Used Scratch X 2.0 and this was the outcome

[MyFirstES300]

Re: Used Scratch X 2.0 and this was the outcome

I wasn't as lucky as you. The ad I got was definetly not family/work firiendly.

Same here!

[Chop]

Re: Used Scratch X 2.0 and this was the outcome

The hosting company you're using takes our members to advertising before showing one of your photos, which in this case it's not too bad, at least nothing inappropriate but we do have to check these things out to keep all our forum members and their family members from seeing inappropriate websites thus one of the reasons we provide each member with gallery space for photos. Of course you have to resize them to about a max of 800 pixels wide for good forum netiquette and to be good stewards of our company resources.

Here's the ad that showed up before the car picture...

I wasn't as lucky as you. The ad I got was definetly not family/work firiendly.

[Ganesa]

Re: Used Scratch X 2.0 and this was the outcome

perhaps you let the scratchX 2.0 to haze... it makes it harder to wipe off as it dries quite quickly, try reapplying, and put some pressure in it to really rub those swirls, and then immediately wipe off with a MF :]
CMIIW

[Tuck91]

Re: Used Scratch X 2.0 and this was the outcome

i will admit i fell victim to using Ultimate Compound improperly but it was a good thing i did it to half a panel, its always good to check your work in the sun, turned out Swirl X was what worked for me anyway

hopefully enough people read the forum and use better technique and then really remove the swirls that were there in the first place, these new products do have the potential to do that too!

Good Luck

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Used Scratch X 2.0 and this was the outcome

You should be able to use the same product but improve your technique.

[mbnewby]

Re: Used Scratch X 2.0 and this was the outcome

OoOps... sorry about the image host....had no idea....will correct in future posts....Definetly the finger marks are the issue......i love my car and i will work hours on it to keep it perfect.......so do you suggest using the 2.0 to correct the damage?

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Used Scratch X 2.0 and this was the outcome

Just so you know, each forum member gets their own gallery here on the forum, when you're logged in just click on the word Gallery in the gold navigation bar at the top of any page it it will take you to your gallery.

The hosting company you're using takes our members to advertising before showing one of your photos, which in this case it's not too bad, at least nothing inappropriate but we do have to check these things out to keep all our forum members and their family members from seeing inappropriate websites thus one of the reasons we provide each member with gallery space for photos. Of course you have to resize them to about a max of 800 pixels wide for good forum netiquette and to be good stewards of our company resources.

Here's the ad that showed up before the car picture...

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Used Scratch X 2.0 and this was the outcome

The below are two 800 pixel wide sections cropped out of the original with the second photo showing circles around the fingermarks.







Here's Extreme Finger marks see some similarities?

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Used Scratch X 2.0 and this was the outcome

The problems look like finger marks which are from the pressure from your fingers pushing through your applicator pad.

Just to note, clear coat paints are delicate in that they scratch very easily and the scratches show up SUPER easy to your eyes especially when the color coat is black or a dark color.

You can't apply any product sloppily or haphazardly especially when using a paint cleaner or a compound to do the cleaning step. You have to massage the product over the paint in a very focused manner, working small sections at at time and then when doing a new section, overlapping your passes into the previous section.

For example one single door would be broken up into anywhere from 4 to 9 sections and you would apply fresh product for each section and work each section for about a minute if you're good at this, that is if you have good technique and you're doing a great job of using your hand to hold the pad and work the product.

Polishing paint is an art form, not merely a mechanical process, it takes the right product for the job and applying it in a focused and purposeful manner as well as the human elements of care of care and passion.


Check out this thread...

Finger Marks

Finger Marks are a type of scratch pattern imprinted into the paint by your fingertips, (pressure points), at the stop and start points when you're applying too aggressive of a product by hand.

An example would be if you're using an abrasive product like an old-fashioned rubbing compound and rubbing it back and forth on your car's paint. At the end of your stroke, for a brief moment your fingers stop as you change direction of your hand to go the other direction.

It is at these stop points that your finger pressure, together with the product and the applicator, will leave Finger Marks in the paint.

You can also get Finger Marks rubbing in circles by hand with too aggressive of a product on clear coat paints. The direction you move your hand doesn't matter its when you pause or stop your hand and for a brief moment the pressure and abrasives imprint the marks into the paint.


These are extreme Finger Marks

Did it take you an hour or two when you applied and worked the Deep Crystal Paint Cleaner over the entire car?

Or less than an hour?

To do a great job of rubbing that car out by hand with a paint cleaner where the goal was to remove swirls, I'm going to guess it would take me 2-3 hours.

[sunfire]

Re: Used Scratch X 2.0 and this was the outcome

This How-to was written for the original ScratchX but still applies:

How To Remove Swirls By Hand

The key is to work in small sections and compare your results before doing the entire car. Do a small section then move your car out of the shade. Compare to make sure the technique you are using is effective.

[mbnewby]

Re: Used Scratch X 2.0 and this was the outcome

Thanks to all for the quick replies. I applied the product in the shade. Used it to remove swirl marks that i had applied by washing the car. I used the wax applicator that Meguiar's Gold Class brought. This was done right after I washed the car and dried it with a shammy. It is brand new black metallic paint on a C300. It created more swirl marks. Applied a coat of wax on it and it got better.....still the swirl marks and little holograms are there....now what?.......these are bigger pics.....will post the after.....

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Used Scratch X 2.0 and this was the outcome

Thanks Mike & Mike.

I went to Walmart, Autozone and AAP today looking for the new scratch x and ultimate compound but only found the older scratchx and it does say on the back that it can be used on a DA.

Since these are brand new products it will take some time to circulate through the distribution pipelines and even after it gets to any store it's usually rotated onto the shelf via FIFO, First In, First Out.

Another thing about traditional retails distribution is in some case stores don't update the car care products aisle until we get closer to spring and the sunny weather returns.

Generically, Memorial Day Weekend is the beginning of the car washing and waxing season, at least here in the United States.

ScratchX 1.0 if properly applied by hand or machine should restore a clear, uniform appearance to the door and the rest of the car. After which you still need to apply a coat of wax.

Maybe just for fun, take a section on the hood or door or any panel that needs some help and tape off a small section about a foot squared and apply ScratchX to this section like recommended above and then apply some wax to the section, and then after letting it dry and wiping off the excess residue, remove the tape and then inspect the area you worked on as compared to the rest of the paint on the panel.

It should look better, in some cases... dramatically better.

The important thing though is to check your results before going over the entire car. Lets see you through to success on one small area before tackling the entire car.

[02zx9r]

Re: Used Scratch X 2.0 and this was the outcome

Thanks Mike & Mike.

I went to Walmart, Autozone and AAP today looking for the new scratch x and ultimate compound but only found the older scratchx and it does say on the back that it can be used on a DA. Knew I should have went and looked before I posted the question.

Thanks for the reply though

[VonLego]

Re: Used Scratch X 2.0 and this was the outcome

Definately an easy fix with the same product. Looks as if you used a paper towel or kitchen rag to apply it. If not, perhaps dirt managed to sneak in.

[Mike Pennington]

Re: Used Scratch X 2.0 and this was the outcome

Here is a shot of the burst on the label Mike is referring to..

The burst says...New & Improved - Use by hand or with a DA!