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    Ive got a few questions of the differences of some products. First is scratchx vs swirl remover 2.0. Ones consumer and ones professional line correct? Is the swirl remover 2.0 more aggressive? (I tend to think the consumer line is generally more fool safe and thus less aggressive) Second whats the difference between Quick detailer and Final inspection. I have both, are they the same thing? In other words can I use final inspection as a lubricant to clay bar and QD to prime my new or dry foam pads? Last question, I bought the solo compound kit and love it...Used it with great results when color sanding my truck. My question is regarding the pads. Those pads both wool and foam can be used with other polishes and compounds to correct? I see seveal products saying to use a foam finishing pad does that mean I could use one of the two foam pads? Oh before I forget where can i buy a spur and nylon brush for my foam pads and wool pads?

    Whew, sorry for so many questions

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    Re: diffrences in products

    Good questions,

    A lot of people get confused by our different product lines because they first don't understand the majority of our 100+ year history, we only make product for the professional side of the industry, that would be 1901 to 1973

    In 1973 we ventured into what's referred to as the Consumer or Enthusiast market. Both of these markets, the Professional and the Consumer markets have their own stores, their own warehouses and their own methods of marketing and distribution.

    Thus sometimes there will be similar product in our Consumer Line as are in our Professional Line and that's because we're able to borrow from our knowledge and expertise in making Professional Grade product to create Consumer product for the Enthusiasts Market.

    Make sense?


    What we know happens is people come to the forum and learn about our Professional Line and this leads to questions about the products, (Like yours), and confusion as to why so many, and as stated above it's more complex than what most people think because there are different markets than just the consumer market.

    Okay, we've formatted your post so that it will lend itself well to answer questions... hang on a second and we'll speed type up some answers...




    Originally posted by wyzat520
    Ive got a few questions of the differences of some products. First is ScratchX vs swirl remover 2.0. Ones consumer and ones professional line correct? Is the swirl remover 2.0 more aggressive? (I tend to think the consumer line is generally more fool safe and thus less aggressive)
    #9 Swirl Remover 2.0 is a cleaner/polish that's primarily used with rotary buffers to remove swirls and light scratches as a part of a multiple step polishing process in body shops on fresh paint.

    ScratchX is a Consumer product for removing light swirls and scratches by hand or with a DA Polisher.

    They're about the same in aggressiveness when used the same way but they are very different types of products, that is the ingredients are very different, they are not the same product in different containers.

    M09 is in the Professional Line and is "Body Shop Safe" that is it contains no ingredients that could affect surface adhesion in a fresh paint environment.



    Originally posted by wyzat520
    Second whats the difference between Quick detailer and Final inspection. I have both, are they the same thing? In other words can I use final inspection as a lubricant to clay bar and QD to prime my new or dry foam pads?
    Both are products in a category called, "Mist & Wipe" products, that is you mist them on and the wipe them off and in the process remove light dust, fingerprints and smudges. You can also use them for clay lube.

    Final Inspection is in the Professional Line and is "Body Shop Safe" that is it contains no ingredients that could affect surface adhesion in a fresh paint environment.


    Originally posted by wyzat520
    Last question, I bought the solo compound kit and love it...Used it with great results when color sanding my truck. My question is regarding the pads. Those pads both wool and foam can be used with other polishes and compounds to correct?
    No. You should not cross-contaminate products on pads, if you're using a pad with M86 then that is now an 86 pad and you shouldn't try to use it with M09, instead get a new pad for the M09 and dedicate it for use with M09 only. Lots of people will mark the backs of their pads so they know what each pad is to be used with.


    Originally posted by wyzat520
    I see several products saying to use a foam finishing pad does that mean I could use one of the two foam pads?
    Yes. A foam finishing pad is a pad that is very gentle to the paint and intended to be used a fine or finishing polish for the final polishing steps.

    Originally posted by wyzat520
    Oh before I forget where can i buy a spur and nylon brush for my foam pads and wool pads?
    A PBE Store, Paint, Body & Equipment. A PBE store is a auto parts story like Autozone except that it also stocks all the supplies your local body shop will need including compounds and polishes. Locate one in your home town and you should be able to find any of our Professional Line products you might need. If they don't have a product you're looking for on display then they can order it for your.

    There's a how to article for how to find one in your home town in the "How To Articles" forum.

    Originally posted by wyzat520
    Whew, sorry for so many questions
    You did good, as though you read this first...

    The Number 3 - Try to limit the number of questions in a single message to three...

    See, we have an article for just about everything...

    Mike Phillips
    760-515-0444
    showcargarage@gmail.com

    "Find something you like and use it often"

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      Re: diffrences in products

      You guys are amazing....haha. Thanks for the clarification. Guess Ill buy some extra, pads when I get the chance.

      although as for scratchx vs swirl remover... Ive got a black car, its got swirls, Ive got a rotary. I'm going to wash it, clay bar it, (scratchx or swirl remover) and wax. Which should I use. Im assuming scratchx as you made it sound like the /#9 is a multi step system where as scratchx is a solo act. I dont mind multi steps if the results are worth it, but if both yield equal results then its obvious.


      oh and on another note. Ever since I 'finished' my paint job, I cant keep my eyes off my own truck and needless to say it attracts allot of attention...If I had a rear bumper I'd put a "I <3 Meguiars" bumper sticker on it.

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        Re: diffrences in products

        Originally posted by wyzat520 View Post
        Ive got a rotary. I'm going to wash it, clay bar it, (scratchx or swirl remover) and wax. Which should I use.
        ScratchX is for use by hand or DA Polisher, it's not for use with a rotary buffer.

        If you think about it, ScratchX is in the Consumer Line, and in most cases the Rotary Buffer is used in the "Professional Industry", thus M09 would be a better choice and actually shows a rotary buffer being used by Mike Pennington on the label.


        Two things whenever you use a cleaner/polish with a rotary buffer.

        1) Clean your pad often
        2) Always wipe any excess or spent residue off the panel before applying fresh product

        Most people don't clean their pads often enough and then find the #9 getting gummy on them. So clean you pad after every pass with product or every other pass with product by holding either a nylon brush against the face of the pad and bringing up the speed of the polisher to collect and kick off built-up product or hold a terry cloth towel into it to do the same.

        If you experience any gumming problems and you have an extra, clean, dry pad switch to this pad and notice how the problem goes way. (In most cases)

        Mike Phillips
        760-515-0444
        showcargarage@gmail.com

        "Find something you like and use it often"

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