D143 vs. Wheel Brightener?

[Eldorado2k]

I had searched through the old Detailers Line threads here and found a couple that also said something around 2 weeks.. I was surprised considering how brilliant it looks when 1st applied. But considering the who it's targeted for it makes sense. But that sort of crosses it off my plans to use it on my brother Jeep that I'll be detailing soon. I was hoping to really make his old dull plastic trim pop like he's never seen before.. D4510 will deffinetly do it.. But if it'll only look that amazing for 2 weeks then slowly fade away it makes me want to go with plan B. Thx for the tips, as always.

BTW this is his trim. I bet it's going to look great once it's nice and black again.



Paint looks ok from afar.. But look closely and you'll see it's actually cracking at the front of the hood snd probably elsewhere too. I was planning on D151 for his Jeep, maybe D300/microfiber pads on some parts but we'll see... Any advice from anyone who's worked on paint in this condition would be appreciated.



The derailment of this thread is great isn't it? Lol.

[exploreco]

Re: D143 vs. Wheel Brightener?

I am finding that I really am not needing to use the D143 on my own personal cars every time as the wheels and tires usually aren't too bad. I am doing the barrels about every other wash. Finding the D143 is working pretty good on the cars I have cleaned though as they have been more neglected than mine.

[The Guz]

Re: D143 vs. Wheel Brightener?

I had searched through the old Detailers Line threads here and found a couple that also said something around 2 weeks.. I was surprised considering how brilliant it looks when 1st applied. But considering the who it's targeted for it makes sense. But that sort of crosses it off my plans to use it on my brother Jeep that I'll be detailing soon. I was hoping to really make his old dull plastic trim pop like he's never seen before.. D4510 will deffinetly do it.. But if it'll only look that amazing for 2 weeks then slowly fade away it makes me want to go with plan B. Thx for the tips, as always.

BTW this is his trim. I bet it's going to look great once it's nice and black again.

Paint looks ok from afar.. But look closely and you'll see it's actually cracking at the front of the hood snd probably elsewhere too. I was planning on D151 for his Jeep, maybe D300/microfiber pads on some parts but we'll see... Any advice from anyone who's worked on paint in this condition would be appreciated.

The derailment of this thread is great isn't it? Lol.

Sounds like a good plan. D300 can sometimes finish LSP ready. As usual your test spot will tell you the best combo. I would try M205 with a couple different pads. I would definitely avoid those cracked areas.

On that trim I would go with ultimate black. Maybe a couple applications depending on how dry it is. I can see why you would want to use D4510. That's a lot of trim.

I am finding that I really am not needing to use the D143 on my own personal cars every time as the wheels and tires usually aren't too bad. I am doing the barrels about every other wash. Finding the D143 is working pretty good on the cars I have cleaned though as they have been more neglected than mine.

This is a good point. Once you initial clean them all you need is soap and water. This is where I would use some sort of protection on the wheels. A couple times a year I will remove the tires and clean the insides completely and put a layer of BDB or something similar to make it easier on washing them.

[Dellinger]

Re: D143 vs. Wheel Brightener?

D143-

Great product for maintenance of intended wheel substrates. For tires, I usually use Zep's 505, brush, then a subsequent cleaning with D143. Some stubborn tires will still 'bloom' but not by much... and those tires have typically been subjected to heavy application of solvent based tire dressings. On my personal vehicle the tires are so black from constant cleaning from D143, dressing is optional. True story.

D140-

Enthusiasts/ Detailers can say what they want but as long as you take the proper precautions, as Mr. Stoops stated, then Wheel Brightener is more effective at eliminating brake dust and contaminants than D143, on proper substrates.

All said and done... both products are a must! (I use D143 1:1 and D140 4:1; I need them to function as designed because time is money.)

-Dellinger

[Meticulous-Detail]

Re: D143 vs. Wheel Brightener?

I use both and love both. When it comes to browning tires, much has to do with the tire and brand than the product.

[Eldorado2k]

Ok so I decided to give my dad's Tacoma the VIP treatment this morning.. I'd had about enough of seeing those nasty blooming tires and went fully loaded on every bit of gunk on that truck.

The rims, tires, wheel wells & trim went from this...



To This.
-D140 Wheel Brightener + the Moolie on the wheels
-D108 Super Degreaser to prep the wheel wells
-D101 APC to prep the trim
-D143 Wheel & Tire Cleaner to clean the tires
-D170 Hyper Dressing 1.1 on both the tires & wheel wells
-D4510 Plastic & Vinyl Coating on the rubber trim.



Does it pop? Lol



-D111 Shampoo Plus wash
-D156 Synthetic Spray Wax as a drying aid
-D120 Class Cleaner for perfect streak free glass
This 10yr. old truck has never looked this good

[The Guz]

Re: D143 vs. Wheel Brightener?

Nice job. I say you got it looking real good.

[exploreco]

Re: D143 vs. Wheel Brightener?

Looks great for an older Taco. I say kitty likes it too. How do you clean the wheel wells? With a brush or just with spray and a power washer? That shine on the tires looks great. I am going to have to get me some Hyper dressing next time. How long does it last? Does it come off as soon as water hits it?

[Eldorado2k]

Thx. To clean the wheel wells, Super Degreaser 4:1 just spray n let sit for about 1min. and hose off and they're clean. I've never had to scrub the wells and would probably only have to if the vehicle had been offroading and caked with mud.

As far as the Hyper Dressing lasting? Well on my car it stays looking that good for 2-3 days.. But then again I've gotten to the point where my own car almost never wows me.. It also has to do with the fact that all 4 of my tires are a different brand at the moment. My Cadillac is flawed in many ways that prevent it from ever maxing out.. But regardless, missmatched tires or not, I've got OCD when it comes to wanting my tires as shiny as possible and they're hard to keep as perfect as the day they're dressed.

However, on my parents Trailblazer the Hyper Dressing seems to last alot longer for some reason. I expect the same on the Tacoma. Even the wheel wells stay looking great for about 2 weeks or so.. Maybe it's because truck tires are larger and stand out more.. Bottom line is Hyper Dressing gets thumbs up in my book. It's just great stuff. And since you like to make the engine look good you're going to love D108 and I hear Hyper Dressing used after makes things looks amazing under the hood.

It never rains out here and I've never just wet my tires with just water.. But even after scrubbing my tires these days they still have a smooth feeling to them as if it's soaked into the tires. So I would say it doesn't just float away so easily. It seems to condition the tires with frequent use.

Just grab your debit card and get it over with sooner rather than later, because you will do it eventually. You've got the sickness! Lol:p

[exploreco]

Re: D143 vs. Wheel Brightener?

Ha, your right, I should just get it and get it over with. I know I will get it sooner or later. We get rain here so curious how it holds up compared to the silicone free dressing i bought. That stuff is gone as soon as any water hits it. The tire and trim gel is much better of course, but like how the hyper looked too. Yeah, it is a sickness alright. lol. I now need to build a dedicated section of my garage for detailing.

[Eldorado2k]

Before you make another purchase, I'd advise to keep that Megs spray bottle of Silicone Free Dressing full at all times and spray liberally on every vehicle lucky enough to call your driveway home. Use it as often as required even it's daily. Lol. Because I don't think anyone would like to see a gallon of good product collect dust right? I've never used the Silicone Free but I'm sure some untapped uses will pop into your mind you'll be happy gave it it's proper chance

[exploreco]

Re: D143 vs. Wheel Brightener?

You and I think alike I am using it on any vehicle that gets a wash outside of my own. Using D163 on my own currently on Guz recommendation, and that is working out well on the tires too. I got the silicone free to try it early on. I am thinking though that hyper dressing will work better in the engine bay and I like the fact that you can dilute the levels of it. I have nothing against it at all. And it is going on moms car, dads, van, or who ever is getting a cleaning right now. lol.

[vdubpower]

Re: D143 vs. Wheel Brightener?

so what issues does using 143 on bare aluminum and uncoated wheels cause.

i think i may have done it before knowing...

what are good products for bare aluminum, i have amg 3 piece wheels that have bare lips and 37 small bolts, and painted centers

[Michael Stoops]

Re: D143 vs. Wheel Brightener?

so what issues does using 143 on bare aluminum and uncoated wheels cause.

i think i may have done it before knowing...

what are good products for bare aluminum, i have amg 3 piece wheels that have bare lips and 37 small bolts, and painted centers

For bare, polished aluminum you should go with Hot Rims Aluminum Wheel Cleaner, or stick with soap and water. Bare aluminum is extremely delicate so it needs to be approached with caution. But, as you can imagine, something that gentle and safe is not going to just melt away brake dust - it's going to need a bit of help via agitation.

[dbssoccer]

Re: D143 vs. Wheel Brightener?

I already have a gallon of D140 that I got for some very dirty wheels. Will it be an adequate tire cleaner? I see Michael's comments about the pH difference but if I could avoid having another bottle of chemical around the house, both of which would get minimal use, I would prefer that. I'm not sure what I'm going to do with the 140 now that I know it did not completely clean my nasty wheels.