Will #21 bond with Klasse All-In-One?

[FusionGuy]

Just bought a bottle of Meg's #21 and am dying to try it. I'm basically using it to replace the Klasse Sealent Glaze because it is so finicky to apply. My question is; if I use Klasse All-In-One as my base, can I use #21 as a topper sealent? I guess what I'm really asking is if #21 will bond okay with this as my base. Thanks.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Will #21 bond with Klasse All-In-One?

My question is; if I use Klasse All-In-One as my base, can I use #21 as a topper sealant? I guess what I'm really asking is if #21 will bond okay with this as my base. Thanks.

If you want to use M21 then the best approach would be to remove anding already on the paint and starting with a fresh base. You could clean the paint first using a simple paint cleaner like Deep Crystal Paint Cleaner, this should remove anything previously applied and then you can use M21 the way it's designed to be used and that's on top of paint, not on top of a peculiar product like the Klasse SG

If you apply M21 over whatever is currently on the car you might get some weird application and removal issues as well as performance issues. You won't walk out to your garage one morning and find a pile of wax/M21 on the floor surround the car as though the wax slipped off the paint, that's not the issue, the issue is these two products were never made to compliment each other and M21 is great product by itself but it wants a clean painted finish to be applied to from the beginning.

You could always do half the hood without removing whatever is on the paint and do the other half of the hood after first cleaning the paint and then watch and see what happens!

[Orca]

Re: Will #21 bond with Klasse All-In-One?

Having used Klasse AIO (branded as Car-Lack68 Nano Systematic Care) extensively with a vast range of products on top, I cannot see why not. One of my preferred processes is this product followed up by #7 and #26.

I don't see any reason why #21 will not sit on top and I can understand your wanting to find another sealant - Klasse Sealant Glaze (or Car-Lack68 Long Life Sealant) can be a pig to get off if you are not quick enough. Actually, Sonus make a spray remix of Klasse Sealant Glaze, called Sonus Acrylic Glanz which is reputed to be easier to use. I have not tried it, though.

#21 is a phenomenally well regarded product and one that is on "my list" for winter prep and survival, which would replace Klasse Sealant Glaze in my routine too. I will still be topping with a durable wax (most likely #16), just because I like to. Now if Meg's made a sprayable version of #21 for top-up and drying maintenance, that would be awesome! I know I could use NXT Generation Spray Wax, but I'd prefer something in a Mirror Glaze range bottle

Back to Klasse AIO - I absolutely love this product for surface prep. The cleaners are really good and it leaves a great shine and gloss ready for glaze and wax. I asked recently about a cleaner product in the Mirror Glaze range and got some good ideas from the replies to complement my otherwise Mirror Glaze product routine, but it would appear that the Paint Cleaner from the consumer range (in the red bottle) is just the right product for the hobby detailer to cleanse the surface ready to accept a protective product like a sealant or a wax, which I personally would select from the Mirror Glaze range as you have with #21.

So yeah ... go ahead.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Will #21 bond with Klasse All-In-One?

Having used Klasse AIO (branded as Car-Lack68 Nano Systematic Care) extensively with a vast range of products on top, I cannot see why not.

After reading your reply I re-read the OP's post... specifically this part...

Just bought a bottle of Meg's #21 and am dying to try it. I'm basically using it to replace the Klasse Sealant Glaze because it is so finicky to apply.

My question is;

if I use Klasse All-In-One as my base, can I use #21 as a topper sealant?

I guess what I'm really asking is if #21 will bond okay with this as my base. Thanks.

My fault, I confused Klasse SG with AIO for what he wanted to do, after re-reading the question the answer is "yes" you can apply M21 over AIO as AIO is basically just a cleaner/wax.

Lot's of people that like AIO also like ColorX as it does the same thing, many people think it works better and it's easier to find and cost less money, so when your AIO runs out give ColorX a try under M21

Sorry for any confusion... at first I though the OP wanted to apply M21 over KSG and that wouldn't be a very good combination noting how KSG works.

[FusionGuy]

Re: Will #21 bond with Klasse All-In-One?

After reading your reply I re-read the OP's post... specifically this part...

Sorry for any confusion... at first I though the OP wanted to apply M21 over KSG and that wouldn't be a very good combination noting how KSG works.

Thanks for clarifying. I tried out Meg's #21 over top of Klasse AIO last evening on my 08 Jetta. Fantastic results! I'm sold on #21.

[Orca]

Re: Will #21 bond with Klasse All-In-One?

That's a result - glad you're happy with it.

[Precision]

Re: Will #21 bond with Klasse All-In-One?

Ive use Klasse AIO and top it off with multiple sealants including NXT and I never had any issues. Klasse AIO is a really good product, kind of pricey though.

[gasti_ako]

Re: Will #21 bond with Klasse All-In-One?

nice read. up

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Will #21 bond with Klasse All-In-One?

Ive use Klasse AIO and top it off with multiple sealants including NXT and I never had any issues. Klasse AIO is a really good product, kind of pricey though.

It's a cleaner/wax... most people that compare ColorX to AIO find they like the performance of ColorX better... the fact that it cost less, can be found at just about any local store is just frosting on the cake.

As usual...

"Find something you like and use it often"