Meguiar's Ultimate Fast Finish

[tjpowell]

Re: Meguiar's Ultimate Fast Finish

Ultimate Fast Finish is a great product & a unique application being aerosol delivered protection making it almost unbelievably easy. For Ultimate Fast Finish our product managers decided to associate a claim with the product, and in the case of Ultimate Fast Finish it lasted through 100+ consecutive washes with a pH balanced car wash solution. Moving forward when we are discussing durability, we are talking through more real world expectations, keeping variables in mind, & with that said, for M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant we are seeing around 6 months durability. Comparing to UFF, M27 will likely have much more gloss, and also keep in mind, M27 has a completely different base chemistry, SiO2, so with that you will get MUCH different water beading characteristics, like much more water beading, higher contact angle (more sphere like water beads), the vehicle will tend to stay cleaner, and because of these water beading characteristics, maintenance tends to be dramatically easier, i.e. washing & drying. Also, our Hybrid Ceramic Liquid Wax in our consumer line also shares similar benefits to M27, just not quite as much gloss or longevity, along with a different application, more wipe on /wipe off. Hope this helps.

Thank you for the detailed information. What are the recommended prep steps for M27? Do you need to do a M122 Surface Prep prior to the application of M27?

[Nick Winn]

Re: Meguiar's Ultimate Fast Finish

How does UFF compare to M27 (just introduced and may not be available as of yet)? What are the pros and cons? I like how easy UFF is to apply, will M27 be similar? last longer? Give a better shine? etc.

Ultimate Fast Finish is a great product & a unique application being aerosol delivered protection making it almost unbelievably easy. For Ultimate Fast Finish our product managers decided to associate a claim with the product, and in the case of Ultimate Fast Finish it lasted through 100+ consecutive washes with a pH balanced car wash solution. Moving forward when we are discussing durability, we are talking through more real world expectations, keeping variables in mind, & with that said, for M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant we are seeing around 6 months durability. Comparing to UFF, M27 will likely have much more gloss, and also keep in mind, M27 has a completely different base chemistry, SiO2, so with that you will get MUCH different water beading characteristics, like much more water beading, higher contact angle (more sphere like water beads), the vehicle will tend to stay cleaner, and because of these water beading characteristics, maintenance tends to be dramatically easier, i.e. washing & drying. Also, our Hybrid Ceramic Liquid Wax in our consumer line also shares similar benefits to M27, just not quite as much gloss or longevity, along with a different application, more wipe on /wipe off. Hope this helps.

[tjpowell]

Re: Meguiar's Ultimate Fast Finish

How does UFF compare to M27 (just introduced and may not be available as of yet)? What are the pros and cons? I like how easy UFF is to apply, will M27 be similar? last longer? Give a better shine? etc.

[j2ee]

Re: Meguiar's Ultimate Fast Finish

Atm i use Sonax spray and seal. It's a simple "spray when wet, rinse, then dry off. Even though i so badly want to try HCW because in my mind the two step procedure have to gain something more then what my Sonax does with only one.

Soft 99 products.. i smelled the fusso coat, that was enough

Google soft99 rain drop, new tech layer, can apply to windcreen, paint, wheel, etc. And it is cheap too.

[snozan]

Re: Meguiar's Ultimate Fast Finish

And the application method of soft99 stuff is much easier, just wash the car, then spray the stuff on the web surface and dry it. HCW method is too much work, even this UFF needs to dry the car first then apply the stuff on the car, which means I need to cover the car surface two times.

Atm i use Sonax spray and seal. It's a simple "spray when wet, rinse, then dry off. Even though i so badly want to try HCW because in my mind the two step procedure have to gain something more then what my Sonax does with only one.

Soft 99 products.. i smelled the fusso coat, that was enough

[j2ee]

Re: Meguiar's Ultimate Fast Finish

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Actually you are making two or more passes with your products.
You rinse, wash by hand/mitt, rinse again and you use like a light spray wax.

With Ultimate Wash and Wax Anywhere followed by UFF, that is only 2 passes.
Good luck with whichever products you choose.

Soft99 stuff can be applied on dry surface too and for any car surface.

[Old Bear]

Re: Meguiar's Ultimate Fast Finish

And the application method of soft99 stuff is much easier, just wash the car, then spray the stuff on the web surface and dry it. HCW method is too much work, even this UFF needs to dry the car first then apply the stuff on the car, which means I need to cover the car surface two times.

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Actually you are making two or more passes with your products.
You rinse, wash by hand/mitt, rinse again and you use like a light spray wax.

With Ultimate Wash and Wax Anywhere followed by UFF, that is only 2 passes.
Good luck with whichever products you choose.

[j2ee]

Re: Meguiar's Ultimate Fast Finish

I also feel the HCW application method is kind of...confusing and not effective. I have shown video in another post showing that the "second method" may not works at all. Anyway I am using Soft99 product which officially support windscreen as well. Work well under heavy rain few days ago, the car looks new after heavy rain as well without manually drying the rain water at all.

And the application method of soft99 stuff is much easier, just wash the car, then spray the stuff on the web surface and dry it. HCW method is too much work, even this UFF needs to dry the car first then apply the stuff on the car, which means I need to cover the car surface two times.

[j2ee]

Re: Meguiar's Ultimate Fast Finish

Yes. In theory the HCW is an even easier application BUT with the spray on and rinse off with water technique there's no way to get 100% coverage or adherence. For that you need to spray it on and wipe/dry it off and even using minimal product I've had constant issues with streaking and having to buff them out. On the flip side, UFF doesn't have any of those problems.

I also feel the HCW application method is kind of...confusing and not effective. I have shown video in another post showing that the "second method" may not works at all. Anyway I am using Soft99 product which officially support windscreen as well. Work well under heavy rain few days ago, the car looks new after heavy rain as well without manually drying the rain water at all.

[Old Bear]

Re: Meguiar's Ultimate Fast Finish

You have tried and compared the hybrid ceramic wax as well?

J2ee
Each of us have different requirements.
Those may change with different vehicles.
UFF is a good choice for me, where HCW is not.
Reasons that would make UFF a better choice include:
* Environmental: Control of run off from cleaning
* Conservation: Water is a very precious resource
* Regulatory: Water usage restrictions from drought
* Availability: Live in apartment or condo association that bans using water to clean vehicles on premises

Then there is a larger motivation for many of us who have restored vehicles:
* We choose to use less than 2 cups of water each time when washing and protecting our vehicles, including what is in the products.
*** Said another way Water=Rust Juice

[Old Bear]

Re: Meguiar's Ultimate Fast Finish

Cannot apply to car windows especially windshield?

UFF is a paint protection product.
If you are getting overspray onto your windshield, change your technique. Turn away from the vehicle and spray with the aerosol nozzle about 6 inches from the black application microfiber towel.
Sometimes you might get a small amount of product from towel on glass that is close to your paint.
Wipe it off as you start the light buff down on that section.
Use UFF a section or panel at a time. It does not need a dry time.

[parker23]

Re: Meguiar's Ultimate Fast Finish

You have tried and compared the hybrid ceramic wax as well?

Yes. In theory the HCW is an even easier application BUT with the spray on and rinse off with water technique there's no way to get 100% coverage or adherence. For that you need to spray it on and wipe/dry it off and even using minimal product I've had constant issues with streaking and having to buff them out. On the flip side, UFF doesn't have any of those problems.

[j2ee]

Re: Meguiar's Ultimate Fast Finish

Agree 100%. I've tried almost all their retail products and nothing can top UFF for durability AND insane ease of application. Love it.

You have tried and compared the hybrid ceramic wax as well?

[j2ee]

Re: Meguiar's Ultimate Fast Finish

Cannot apply to car windows especially windshield?

[parker23]

Re: Meguiar's Ultimate Fast Finish

For those that have used UFF and other Meguiars sealants and waxes are you all in agreement that UFF is their longest lasting paint protectant? I know the advertising says this but interested in hearing real life testimonials.

Personally, I hope UFF never goes away if for no other reason than its ridiculously easy application.

Agree 100%. I've tried almost all their retail products and nothing can top UFF for durability AND insane ease of application. Love it.