Cadi CTSV Supercharged with Black Wax

[ffboy]

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Incredible shine! Incredible, I'm green with envy...

I will try this as soon as the distributor here finally sells it. Seems excellent not only at concealing swirls, but adding a lot of depth. Does make me think how much wetter the car would look if some paint correction was done. Don't get me wrong, the shine is fantastic.

[PGA2B]

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Just got some and tried it on my Cadillac STSV and WOW!! This stuff is really good. It is by far the easiest product to remove from a car and the shine is amazing. I usually do M205 followed by M7 followed by M21. All I did this time is M205 followed by Black Wax and the results were better than the long process I used to do.

[Show 'N' Shine Car Detailing]

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Does look amazing. I've been having cloudy days, so haven't gotten good pics. But you know me, I love reflection shots. Nice work!!

[DogParkGuy]

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Monday I start on my neighbor's Pearl White CTS station wagon(with 550 HP supercharged engine). Other than using a car wash, this is the first good cleaning and paint correction. Pictures will follow later on Monday.

[Murr1525]

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ColorX would be more on the White side, but with diminishing abrasives.

[kiwiatlarge]

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That's an interesting comparison chart above... how would ColorX chart in comparison? (better cleaning ability for a start I guess)

[Detailing by M]

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This looks awesome!

Thanks. I miss MA. I was stationed at Natick RD&E Center

[tapp1]

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This looks awesome!

[c5errr]

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black wax is defenetley one of the best waxes i used for black paint

i tried it on my friends black ford

it makes the black blacker

and as much as it is a paste it becomes so liquid and oily when rubbed against paint and easy to remove when u apply thin

[Scott's 62]

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That turned out great! I cant wait to try White Wax on my cars. you got some awesome reflections there.

[Detailing by M]

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Thanks for clearing stuff up Mike.

I did this polish as a "noob" -the Flex but still I used it like a regular DA
I did it in an "easy way", put product on pad, rub it on the paint for a few seconds and move on.
I didn't want to go all "pro" and correct and get crazy with it. I just wanted to see what results would come from using it like an "average person" would.
And as we all can see it came out great!

[s word]

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Both Black Wax and White Wax are cleaner waxes, meaning both will clean, polish and protect in one step. Black Wax contains more polishing oils and less cleaner than White Wax does, but both use the same SMAT abrasives (a first in a cleaner wax) so the cleaning ability in both is quite good. The image below shows the relative level of cleaner/polish/protection in both when compared to our traditional Cleaner Wax:



Since none of these products contain any pigments, dyes or colorants that will impact the paint in any way, it is perfectly safe to use Black Wax on a white car (or other light color) or White Wax on a dark colored car. In fact, White Wax in this situation would have removed more defects than Black Wax did, but with less polishing oils it most likely would not have revealed this level of depth and gloss. The sound of it, Mario here was being paid for a one step process on this car, and the result he obtained in just a couple of hours is fantastic! Of course, his use of a yellow polishing pad for the application of Black Wax helped him out. s word, you're process of using a yellow pad for correction and a black pad for waxing is indeed the normal and usual process. But the correcting ability of virtually any product can be altered by changing pads, and when dealing with cleaner waxes this is definitely the case. In fact, White Wax on a polishing pad can have an almost shocking level of correction on some paints, and usually the finish is still excellent. As is always the case when correcting paint, the combination of liquids and pads you go with will depend on the paint hardness, defect severity, and the end result you were looking for. Again, in this case, since a few light defects are still present (and since Mario was very up front about pointing them out) this tells us a lot about the expectations here.

You hit some very important points in the discussion for me. In a one step process the yellow finishing pad definitely makes sense as the primary pad choice. And when given an opportunity to correct something this way, I will be sure to take some comparison shots.

From what you said about approaching each paint and situation differently, it sounds like my process was ok. Because my only interaction with Black Wax was on the Acura RL I posted last week. This job required a few more steps. I compounded with DA and 101, then used 205 to polish on foam pad, and topped it with black wax. The paint was extremely soft and scratched easily so other than the compounding I was trying to be as delicate as possible on my finishing steps. Literally every touch left marks.

I did recently order a new set of all the colored foam pads (including burgundy which I haven't used yet) so I look forward to using them and I plan on doing a few tests another MOL member inquired about so maybe I can use Black Wax in my test as a one step correction process. Thanks again.

[Michael Stoops]

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What is the longevity/durability of black/white wax? I love Megs Cleaner Wax but it just doesnt last. Will these formulas last longer than Megs Cleaner Wax or about the same?

These will definitely last longer than Cleaner Wax. But they are not synthetics like NXT or Ultimate so don't expect that sort of durability. Gold Class would be closest in durability to these new products. Remember, though, that since these are carnauba waxes they are going to suffer more when exposed to prolonged heavy rain, just like any other carnauba will.

[Meticulous-Detail]

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Both Black Wax and White Wax are cleaner waxes, meaning both will clean, polish and protect in one step. Black Wax contains more polishing oils and less cleaner than White Wax does, but both use the same SMAT abrasives (a first in a cleaner wax) so the cleaning ability in both is quite good. The image below shows the relative level of cleaner/polish/protection in both when compared to our traditional Cleaner Wax:



Since none of these products contain any pigments, dyes or colorants that will impact the paint in any way, it is perfectly safe to use Black Wax on a white car (or other light color) or White Wax on a dark colored car. In fact, White Wax in this situation would have removed more defects than Black Wax did, but with less polishing oils it most likely would not have revealed this level of depth and gloss. The sound of it, Mario here was being paid for a one step process on this car, and the result he obtained in just a couple of hours is fantastic! Of course, his use of a yellow polishing pad for the application of Black Wax helped him out. s word, you're process of using a yellow pad for correction and a black pad for waxing is indeed the normal and usual process. But the correcting ability of virtually any product can be altered by changing pads, and when dealing with cleaner waxes this is definitely the case. In fact, White Wax on a polishing pad can have an almost shocking level of correction on some paints, and usually the finish is still excellent. As is always the case when correcting paint, the combination of liquids and pads you go with will depend on the paint hardness, defect severity, and the end result you were looking for. Again, in this case, since a few light defects are still present (and since Mario was very up front about pointing them out) this tells us a lot about the expectations here.

What is the longevity/durability of black/white wax? I love Megs Cleaner Wax but it just doesnt last. Will these formulas last longer than Megs Cleaner Wax or about the same?

[Michael Stoops]

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I have always used yellow for correction and black for polish/wax. And after using the yellow pad and black wax you don't put anything else on? It finishes clean like that? I am definitely going to give this a try.
I picked up Black Wax a few weeks back after I saw want you did with it, but always applied it with Black pad.

Both Black Wax and White Wax are cleaner waxes, meaning both will clean, polish and protect in one step. Black Wax contains more polishing oils and less cleaner than White Wax does, but both use the same SMAT abrasives (a first in a cleaner wax) so the cleaning ability in both is quite good. The image below shows the relative level of cleaner/polish/protection in both when compared to our traditional Cleaner Wax:



Since none of these products contain any pigments, dyes or colorants that will impact the paint in any way, it is perfectly safe to use Black Wax on a white car (or other light color) or White Wax on a dark colored car. In fact, White Wax in this situation would have removed more defects than Black Wax did, but with less polishing oils it most likely would not have revealed this level of depth and gloss. The sound of it, Mario here was being paid for a one step process on this car, and the result he obtained in just a couple of hours is fantastic! Of course, his use of a yellow polishing pad for the application of Black Wax helped him out. s word, you're process of using a yellow pad for correction and a black pad for waxing is indeed the normal and usual process. But the correcting ability of virtually any product can be altered by changing pads, and when dealing with cleaner waxes this is definitely the case. In fact, White Wax on a polishing pad can have an almost shocking level of correction on some paints, and usually the finish is still excellent. As is always the case when correcting paint, the combination of liquids and pads you go with will depend on the paint hardness, defect severity, and the end result you were looking for. Again, in this case, since a few light defects are still present (and since Mario was very up front about pointing them out) this tells us a lot about the expectations here.