Cadi CTSV Supercharged with Black Wax

[Detailing by M]

So here is one of my good customers that had alot of RIDS on his beautiful CTSV that I'm guessing his former detailer didn't care about.

For his monthly detail I chose to polish this with Black Wax so I can make a post for the member her on MOL to see what you can do with this wax and a DA.

So this wasn't a paint correction or even a paid polish but it was a beautiful day and I said let's do it for my fellow MOL members!

I waterless washed with Aquanil, prepped with Speedy Prep Towel and Black Wax on a yellow pad and my Flex.
This car needed M105 and 6 hrs of polishing but that's for another day when I'll get paid for it.
So the paint isn't perfect but it is beautiful!

The before pics:

Looks like the responsible thing to do in this neighborhood is to NOT USE WATER and pollute the ocean. (I'll protect your environment little Dolphins! If you check the links on my web page you find the Pacific Marine Mammal Rescue Center's link that I donate to.)
I LOVE MY OCEAN!


All set up and ready to work













I used alot of product on this car, well to me I did. This was my prep amount and then I use about the same amount per area I worked.


I use two different lights. The Xenon of course and then my Stanly for a whiter light







So someone said Black Wax had pigment in it. It doesn't. Here it is on the lights and what my pad looked like when I was using.


OMG! I MESSED IT ALL UP! JK, just the dry wax.


The finished product of my labor. About and two hours of actual polishing.


Even with the paint defects still there this car looks wet, deep and dark!


El Toro Marine Base Blimp Hanger in this reflection shot. The new Top Gear is filmed here.


You can see the RIDS but this car looks great!


You can see some of the defects but it's not noticeable while looking at this awesome shine.




Nice reflection of the beautiful neighborhood


No I didn't pollute the ocean today! Your welcome Mother Earth. I'm doing my part, and you should too.
So I'm telling you, YOU can get this kind of shine without using 40 gals of water and polluting the earth. Oh and the water going into the drain is from my customer's neighbor washing his car the "old fashion way"


Meguiar's reflecting Meguiar's! I stopped someone walking by to hold Meguiar's banner for me.


Nice hood refection of the Detail van that got this job done.


It's like a mirror.


So you to can get this kind of results with a DA and the new Black Wax by Meguiar's.
I did this car in a simple matter so you, the average enthusiast, can see what you can do with these awesome tools that Meguiar's provides you Car Crazy people!

[Car Potential]

WOW looks great!

Looks like the black wax did a great job removing some of the swirls. Or maybe it was the polishing oils in the black wax covering them up?

[s word]

Re: Cadi CTSV Supercharged with Black Wax

Why is black wax recommended for use with yellow pad instead of black pad? Would black pad just yield less corrections?

[Detailing by M]

Re: Cadi CTSV Supercharged with Black Wax

Black Wax is a light polish and a the yellow Soft Buff pads are an awesome buffing pad that corrects paint beautifully with the right polish.
The yellow pad is my goto for trying everything it's my "control" pad I know what it can and can't do.
The Black pad really has no correction abilities and I really don't use those.
So the use of a yellow Soft Buff pad is the right choice.

[s word]

Re: Cadi CTSV Supercharged with Black Wax

Black Wax is a light polish and a the yellow Soft Buff pads are an awesome buffing pad that corrects paint beautifully with the right polish.
The yellow pad is my goto for trying everything it's my "control" pad I know what it can and can't do.
The Black pad really has no correction abilities and I really don't use those.
So the use of a yellow Soft Buff pad is the right choice.

I have always used yellow for correction and black for polish/wax. And after using the yellow pad and black wax you don't put anything else on? It finishes clean like that? I am definitely going to give this a try.
I picked up Black Wax a few weeks back after I saw want you did with it, but always applied it with Black pad.

[smack]

Re: Cadi CTSV Supercharged with Black Wax

Wow stunning results and pictures!

Incredible work sir!

[Detailing by M]

Re: Cadi CTSV Supercharged with Black Wax

I have always used yellow for correction and black for polish/wax. And after using the yellow pad and black wax you don't put anything else on? It finishes clean like that? I am definitely going to give this a try.
I picked up Black Wax a few weeks back after I saw want you did with it, but always applied it with Black pad.

Yellow pads will usually give you a better look due to it's ability to cut/buff minor scratches.
So yes please use the yellow pads, you'll love them.
No I didn't put anything on top of the Black Wax. I don't do double the work/top wax.

Wow stunning results and pictures!

Incredible work sir!

THANK YOU SIR!!!
I always like it when fellow pros compliment my work.
I'm trying to take better pics and not running home as fast as I can after I get the job done, lol.
A little drive around the block, 15 mins of time and I got some good pics. Plus I couldn't pass up the Blimp Hanger in the reflection shots.

[smack]

Re: Cadi CTSV Supercharged with Black Wax

THANK YOU SIR!!!
I always like it when fellow pros compliment my work.
I'm trying to take better pics and not running home as fast as I can after I get the job done, lol.
A little drive around the block, 15 mins of time and I got some good pics. Plus I couldn't pass up the Blimp Hanger in the reflection shots.

I think your review just pushed me over the edge to grab a bottle of this to try out on my black BMW's.

Maybe UP and polishing pad, BL Wax and finishing pad, and then top it with Souveran?

[Detailing by M]

Re: Cadi CTSV Supercharged with Black Wax

Well I'm glad you like the write up on Black Wax.
Using UP might be a good idea but I would try a Soft Buff yellow pad and Black Wax the way I did. It might give you the results your looking for as it is a "light" polish.
I don't top, don't like it and in most cases actually removes more wax then if you left the original coat of wax.
But do what you like. As Mike Phillips says "Use what you like and works for you"

[Meticulous-Detail]

Re: Cadi CTSV Supercharged with Black Wax

Nice job. Black wax gave a decent correction for an AIO, no word on longevity yet?

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Cadi CTSV Supercharged with Black Wax

I have always used yellow for correction and black for polish/wax. And after using the yellow pad and black wax you don't put anything else on? It finishes clean like that? I am definitely going to give this a try.
I picked up Black Wax a few weeks back after I saw want you did with it, but always applied it with Black pad.

Both Black Wax and White Wax are cleaner waxes, meaning both will clean, polish and protect in one step. Black Wax contains more polishing oils and less cleaner than White Wax does, but both use the same SMAT abrasives (a first in a cleaner wax) so the cleaning ability in both is quite good. The image below shows the relative level of cleaner/polish/protection in both when compared to our traditional Cleaner Wax:



Since none of these products contain any pigments, dyes or colorants that will impact the paint in any way, it is perfectly safe to use Black Wax on a white car (or other light color) or White Wax on a dark colored car. In fact, White Wax in this situation would have removed more defects than Black Wax did, but with less polishing oils it most likely would not have revealed this level of depth and gloss. The sound of it, Mario here was being paid for a one step process on this car, and the result he obtained in just a couple of hours is fantastic! Of course, his use of a yellow polishing pad for the application of Black Wax helped him out. s word, you're process of using a yellow pad for correction and a black pad for waxing is indeed the normal and usual process. But the correcting ability of virtually any product can be altered by changing pads, and when dealing with cleaner waxes this is definitely the case. In fact, White Wax on a polishing pad can have an almost shocking level of correction on some paints, and usually the finish is still excellent. As is always the case when correcting paint, the combination of liquids and pads you go with will depend on the paint hardness, defect severity, and the end result you were looking for. Again, in this case, since a few light defects are still present (and since Mario was very up front about pointing them out) this tells us a lot about the expectations here.

[Meticulous-Detail]

Re: Cadi CTSV Supercharged with Black Wax

Both Black Wax and White Wax are cleaner waxes, meaning both will clean, polish and protect in one step. Black Wax contains more polishing oils and less cleaner than White Wax does, but both use the same SMAT abrasives (a first in a cleaner wax) so the cleaning ability in both is quite good. The image below shows the relative level of cleaner/polish/protection in both when compared to our traditional Cleaner Wax:



Since none of these products contain any pigments, dyes or colorants that will impact the paint in any way, it is perfectly safe to use Black Wax on a white car (or other light color) or White Wax on a dark colored car. In fact, White Wax in this situation would have removed more defects than Black Wax did, but with less polishing oils it most likely would not have revealed this level of depth and gloss. The sound of it, Mario here was being paid for a one step process on this car, and the result he obtained in just a couple of hours is fantastic! Of course, his use of a yellow polishing pad for the application of Black Wax helped him out. s word, you're process of using a yellow pad for correction and a black pad for waxing is indeed the normal and usual process. But the correcting ability of virtually any product can be altered by changing pads, and when dealing with cleaner waxes this is definitely the case. In fact, White Wax on a polishing pad can have an almost shocking level of correction on some paints, and usually the finish is still excellent. As is always the case when correcting paint, the combination of liquids and pads you go with will depend on the paint hardness, defect severity, and the end result you were looking for. Again, in this case, since a few light defects are still present (and since Mario was very up front about pointing them out) this tells us a lot about the expectations here.

What is the longevity/durability of black/white wax? I love Megs Cleaner Wax but it just doesnt last. Will these formulas last longer than Megs Cleaner Wax or about the same?

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Cadi CTSV Supercharged with Black Wax

What is the longevity/durability of black/white wax? I love Megs Cleaner Wax but it just doesnt last. Will these formulas last longer than Megs Cleaner Wax or about the same?

These will definitely last longer than Cleaner Wax. But they are not synthetics like NXT or Ultimate so don't expect that sort of durability. Gold Class would be closest in durability to these new products. Remember, though, that since these are carnauba waxes they are going to suffer more when exposed to prolonged heavy rain, just like any other carnauba will.

[s word]

Re: Cadi CTSV Supercharged with Black Wax

Both Black Wax and White Wax are cleaner waxes, meaning both will clean, polish and protect in one step. Black Wax contains more polishing oils and less cleaner than White Wax does, but both use the same SMAT abrasives (a first in a cleaner wax) so the cleaning ability in both is quite good. The image below shows the relative level of cleaner/polish/protection in both when compared to our traditional Cleaner Wax:



Since none of these products contain any pigments, dyes or colorants that will impact the paint in any way, it is perfectly safe to use Black Wax on a white car (or other light color) or White Wax on a dark colored car. In fact, White Wax in this situation would have removed more defects than Black Wax did, but with less polishing oils it most likely would not have revealed this level of depth and gloss. The sound of it, Mario here was being paid for a one step process on this car, and the result he obtained in just a couple of hours is fantastic! Of course, his use of a yellow polishing pad for the application of Black Wax helped him out. s word, you're process of using a yellow pad for correction and a black pad for waxing is indeed the normal and usual process. But the correcting ability of virtually any product can be altered by changing pads, and when dealing with cleaner waxes this is definitely the case. In fact, White Wax on a polishing pad can have an almost shocking level of correction on some paints, and usually the finish is still excellent. As is always the case when correcting paint, the combination of liquids and pads you go with will depend on the paint hardness, defect severity, and the end result you were looking for. Again, in this case, since a few light defects are still present (and since Mario was very up front about pointing them out) this tells us a lot about the expectations here.

You hit some very important points in the discussion for me. In a one step process the yellow finishing pad definitely makes sense as the primary pad choice. And when given an opportunity to correct something this way, I will be sure to take some comparison shots.

From what you said about approaching each paint and situation differently, it sounds like my process was ok. Because my only interaction with Black Wax was on the Acura RL I posted last week. This job required a few more steps. I compounded with DA and 101, then used 205 to polish on foam pad, and topped it with black wax. The paint was extremely soft and scratched easily so other than the compounding I was trying to be as delicate as possible on my finishing steps. Literally every touch left marks.

I did recently order a new set of all the colored foam pads (including burgundy which I haven't used yet) so I look forward to using them and I plan on doing a few tests another MOL member inquired about so maybe I can use Black Wax in my test as a one step correction process. Thanks again.

[Detailing by M]

Re: Cadi CTSV Supercharged with Black Wax

Thanks for clearing stuff up Mike.

I did this polish as a "noob" -the Flex but still I used it like a regular DA
I did it in an "easy way", put product on pad, rub it on the paint for a few seconds and move on.
I didn't want to go all "pro" and correct and get crazy with it. I just wanted to see what results would come from using it like an "average person" would.
And as we all can see it came out great!