M86 Cut & Polish Cream goes it SOLO with Alpine’s Imprint RLS

[Kevin Brown]

Re: M86 Cut & Polish Cream goes it SOLO with Alpine’s Imprint RLS

Totally understandable Kevin. I know you like to think In and Out of the Box and it's always a pleasure to see what kind of progress/results you are experiencing with all kinds of different products. Thanks for sharing and being part of the car care/detailing community

Appreciate the comments.

[imacarnut]

Re: M86 Cut & Polish Cream goes it SOLO with Alpine’s Imprint RLS

At that time, we didn't have the jewels of the polishing world, M105 and M205 to use with the Surbuf.
Without the abrasive technology employed if these wonderful liquids, the it simply did not perform as it does today.

In fact, the Surbuf pad WAS and still IS touted by Surbuf as a pad for use with woodworking, for dust collection and hand-staining, and for automotive use as a final polishing and waxing pad. Its original intent was not for compounding duties.

As a final polishing and waxing pad, some guys had success with the pad.
However, a majority of the guys that post on detailing forums were not happy with the performance it delivered.
Consequently, its popularity faded throughout the detailing forums, as far as I could tell.

Even now, it is not a pad for everybody, and requires patience to learn how to use it as a "cutter".

Since this is a Meguiar's-owned forum, I try not to discuss the Surbuf or other competing products, out of respect for Meguiar's.

This is also why I don't constantly write about the "KBM" here, or recommend that Meguiar's products be used in a manner opposing their own carefully thought out recommendations. Meguiar's as a company must appeal to, educate, and satisfy a wide variety of end users. Knowing this, they rarely stray from the stern and well thought out recommendations typically listed on their products.

I try to keep all of this in mind while posting here at MOL, and will generally only discuss other products or out of the box procedures when its been brought up by another member, or the information listed as being made by me is inaccurate or not actually made by me.

I am probably Meguiar's BIGGEST fan and ardent supporter, but still only a tiny cog in the machine that makes it all whirl around!

Totally understandable Kevin. I know you like to think In and Out of the Box and it's always a pleasure to see what kind of progress/results you are experiencing with all kinds of different products. Thanks for sharing and being part of the car care/detailing community

[Kevin Brown]

Re: M86 Cut & Polish Cream goes it SOLO with Alpine’s Imprint RLS

That's a great response! Oh, and how come in the other thread with the pictures where it shows the Surbufs years ago, you didn't mention it sooner in some of the other detailing forums? You are one to find out some gems and procedures that help push the envelope and we are enquiring minds that want to learn i say J/K, you DA man

At that time, we didn't have the jewels of the polishing world, M105 and M205 to use with the Surbuf.
Without the abrasive technology employed if these wonderful liquids, the it simply did not perform as it does today.

In fact, the Surbuf pad WAS and still IS touted by Surbuf as a pad for use with woodworking, for dust collection and hand-staining, and for automotive use as a final polishing and waxing pad. Its original intent was not for compounding duties.

As a final polishing and waxing pad, some guys had success with the pad.
However, a majority of the guys that post on detailing forums were not happy with the performance it delivered.
Consequently, its popularity faded throughout the detailing forums, as far as I could tell.

Even now, it is not a pad for everybody, and requires patience to learn how to use it as a "cutter".

Since this is a Meguiar's-owned forum, I try not to discuss the Surbuf or other competing products, out of respect for Meguiar's.

This is also why I don't constantly write about the "KBM" here, or recommend that Meguiar's products be used in a manner opposing their own carefully thought out recommendations. Meguiar's as a company must appeal to, educate, and satisfy a wide variety of end users. Knowing this, they rarely stray from the stern and well thought out recommendations typically listed on their products.

I try to keep all of this in mind while posting here at MOL, and will generally only discuss other products or out of the box procedures when its been brought up by another member, or the information listed as being made by me is inaccurate or not actually made by me.

I am probably Meguiar's BIGGEST fan and ardent supporter, but still only a tiny cog in the machine that makes it all whirl around!

[imacarnut]

Re: M86 Cut & Polish Cream goes it SOLO with Alpine’s Imprint RLS

Quite simply, it is THE most underestimated product Meguiar's makes. I still use it with the random orbital!
I know several HIGH END detailers that regularly use M86 with the random orbital, too.

I'd say that M86:

• Performs as well as M105 on some paints
• Performs as well as Ultimate Compound on some paints
• Works very well for its intended purpose, which is to rotary cut and polish fresh paint
• Can finish on par with some of the BEST finishing polishes available today.
• Is very easy to use, and features great wipe-off characteristics
• Should be in every person's buffing arsenal

How's that for an answer?

That's a great response! Oh, and how come in the other thread with the pictures where it shows the Surbufs years ago, you didn't mention it sooner in some of the other detailing forums? You are one to find out some gems and procedures that help push the envelope and we are enquiring minds that want to learn i say J/K, you DA man

[Kevin Brown]

Re: M86 Cut & Polish Cream goes it SOLO with Alpine’s Imprint RLS

...
Congratulations for that great job again...

Thank you.

Very impressive. Very impressive indeed

Appreciate your reading of the thread, Flash!

Kevin, what has been your experience with M86 with the DA, even though it's not recommended to be used with one?

Quite simply, it is THE most underestimated product Meguiar's makes. I still use it with the random orbital!
I know several HIGH END detailers that regularly use M86 with the random orbital, too.

I'd say that M86:

• Performs as well as M105 on some paints
• Performs as well as Ultimate Compound on some paints
• Works very well for its intended purpose, which is to rotary cut and polish fresh paint
• Can finish on par with some of the BEST finishing polishes available today.
• Is very easy to use, and features great wipe-off characteristics
• Should be in every person's buffing arsenal

How's that for an answer?

[imacarnut]

Re: M86 Cut & Polish Cream goes it SOLO with Alpine’s Imprint RLS

Kevin, what has been your experience with M86 with the DA, even though it's not recommended to be used with one?

[Flash Gordon]

Re: M86 Cut & Polish Cream goes it SOLO with Alpine’s Imprint RLS

Very impressive. Very impressive indeed

[Zeta Detail]

Re: M86 Cut & Polish Cream goes it SOLO with Alpine’s Imprint RLS

We'll allow guys with unibrows, too. This caveat may help you...

Ouch! You got me on that one, Kevin. But hey, my unibrow protects my eyes from the sun without having to wear a cap!

Congratulations for that great job again.

[Kevin Brown]

Re: M86 Cut & Polish Cream goes it SOLO with Alpine’s Imprint RLS

Wow, what an awesome job. I hadn't seen it yet. As Kevin said, you guys seem to be having fun and working hard at the same time. All I can say is congratulations and that I love reading posts like this.

Thanks!
Here are a few more Alpine gig's we did:

http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4576

http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13351

http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10513

http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21186

Two questions:
- Where can we see bigger/more detailed pictures of the finished car?

http://www.alpine-usa.com/US-en/fun/P-Lot/garage.php?vehicle=IMPRINT%20RLS

- Do u have to be bald to be invited to these polishing sessions?

No. But you DO have to be nice! OR!- you have to buy all the food for the shiny-head clan (or SHC's).

We'll allow guys with unibrows, too. This caveat may help you.. I don't know.

[KC's]

Re: M86 Cut & Polish Cream goes it SOLO with Alpine’s Imprint RLS

cool

[Eddie6th]

Re: M86 Cut & Polish Cream goes it SOLO with Alpine’s Imprint RLS

Nice work! I've never seen that model before

Nice,humorous layout with the pics.

One Q about the paintjob. Was it a red tinted clear,ontop of silver?

The paint color had real nice depth to it.

[Zeta Detail]

Re: M86 Cut & Polish Cream goes it SOLO with Alpine’s Imprint RLS

Wow, what an awesome job. I hadn't seen it yet. As Kevin said, you guys seem to be having fun and working hard at the same time. All I can say is congratulations and that I love reading posts like this.

Two questions:

- Where can we see bigger/more detailed pictures of the finished car?
- Do u have to be bald to be invited to these polishing sessions?

[ZoranC]

Re: M86 Cut & Polish Cream goes it SOLO with Alpine’s Imprint RLS

I'm new to youtube, but successfully uploaded a video of the car at CES.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFzwN012ZHA

Thank you!

[Kevin Brown]

Re: M86 Cut & Polish Cream goes it SOLO with Alpine’s Imprint RLS

I can't get enough of looking at pictures from these sessions even though incredible as they are they still don't do justice to what one can see in person, so Kevin, please, can we have some more?

Thanks, Zoran...
I'm new to youtube, but successfully uploaded a video of the car at CES.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFzwN012ZHA

I have another video but need to modify it because there are some things in it that are 'prototype' and not yet available...

[ZoranC]

Re: M86 Cut & Polish Cream goes it SOLO with Alpine’s Imprint RLS

I can't get enough of looking at pictures from these sessions even though incredible as they are they still don't do justice to what one can see in person, so Kevin, please, can we have some more?