Apollo Detailing: Full Correction Imola Red '05 BMW 330ci ZHP

[Holden_Caulfield04]

Re: Apollo Detailing: Full Correction Imola Red '05 BMW 330ci ZHP

Menzerna makes some good polishes, but I find I can get at least equal results with Meguiars (#105 flat blows away every other heavy compound I've used) at a much lower price. Meguiars polishes are less finicky as well.

Use what works for you, right? FWIW the non-ceramiclear polishes that Menzerna produces are similar in cost to Megs products. I picked up some 1Z High Gloss Polish and Intensive Paste for less than $25 combined.

[Superior Shine]

Re: Apollo Detailing: Full Correction Imola Red '05 BMW 330ci ZHP

Talk about a thread backfiring on you

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[Scottwax]

Re: Apollo Detailing: Full Correction Imola Red '05 BMW 330ci ZHP

Are you talking about the Menzerna you mentioned in this post or about Meguiars polishes. I only use Meg's polishes, and I have never tried them in the sun.

Andy
101impala

#83 DACP will work to an extent on hotter surfaces, #80 does not do so well.

[Scottwax]

Re: Apollo Detailing: Full Correction Imola Red '05 BMW 330ci ZHP

Menzerna makes some good polishes, but I find I can get at least equal results with Meguiars (#105 flat blows away every other heavy compound I've used) at a much lower price. Meguiars polishes are less finicky as well.

[3Fitty]

Re: Apollo Detailing: Full Correction Imola Red '05 BMW 330ci ZHP

Working in the sun is not recommended but I do so on occasion out of necessity. It's Spring here in Canada and the temperature was approximately 12-18 degrees Celsius, 54-64 degrees F. The day was partly cloudy so it wasn't extremely sunny.

Oh come on... admit it, you still have SNOW on the ground and live in an igloo.*

When working in the sun, I have to work much harder to prevent water-spotting. I have to be fast and nimble and always have the hose running. The car was also washed in thirds (top, middle, bottom) rather than halfs as I normally do.
The sun appears to have no effect on polishing.

Can't remember by who, but I was once told (long ago) that washing in the sun was like having hundreds of magnifying glasses on your paint. I stuck!!! LOL

I think it is great to be open to new ideas and products.

Yeah, that is what I think also (I'm currently in the middle of an experiment between Poorboys Wheel Sealant and NXT 2.0 on my rims). I think the one very important factor you must look at when comparing products is not just the performance (which is obviously tops) but also performance vs. price. Based upon my tests, I've never seen any product approach Meg's stuff in this area.

I'm sure there are TONS of good products out there (I think Zymol has a $36,000 wax) but the question is, is it 2500 times better than NXT? I've got to be honest with you, I have a few products I prefer over the comparable Meg's stuff, but by in large, I think Meg's is second to none.










* Born and raised in the Great White North, but transplanted South so I hope you get the joke!

[Andy M.]

Re: Apollo Detailing: Full Correction Imola Red '05 BMW 330ci ZHP

Yes, Menz. I assume Megs would be fine in the sun. I think you may have better luck with the machine detailing sections.

Cheers

I'm guessing you mean detailing a section at a time with the machine. Not sure though. I always polish in sections.

Andy

[Derrick]

Re: Apollo Detailing: Full Correction Imola Red '05 BMW 330ci ZHP

I know i have tried it in the sun and its not easy. Of course im talking about 100 degrees outside dripping sweat just sitting there kind of hot and it makes the polishes dry way to fast and you cant properly work the polishes into the paint. I think that is another reason why megs says to use it in the shade.

[Holden_Caulfield04]

Re: Apollo Detailing: Full Correction Imola Red '05 BMW 330ci ZHP

Are you talking about the Menzerna you mentioned in this post or about Meguiars polishes. I only use Meg's polishes, and I have never tried them in the sun.

Andy
101impala

Yes, Menz. I assume Megs would be fine in the sun. I think you may have better luck with the machine detailing sections.

Cheers

[Andy M.]

Re: Apollo Detailing: Full Correction Imola Red '05 BMW 330ci ZHP

It depends on the polish. The polishes I use, for example, are extremely prone to changes in humidity. They DUST LIKE CRAZY!

Are you talking about the Menzerna you mentioned in this post or about Meguiars polishes. I only use Meg's polishes, and I have never tried them in the sun.

Andy
101impala

[Holden_Caulfield04]

Re: Apollo Detailing: Full Correction Imola Red '05 BMW 330ci ZHP

Hey Holden,

I have never used a polish in the sun. I thought you needed to be in the shade.


Just thought I would ask, because in the past I have shyed away from doing anything at all in direct sunlight.

Andy
101impala

It depends on the polish. The polishes I use, for example, are extremely prone to changes in humidity. They DUST LIKE CRAZY!

[Andy M.]

Re: Apollo Detailing: Full Correction Imola Red '05 BMW 330ci ZHP

Hey Holden,

I have never used a polish in the sun. I thought you needed to be in the shade.

The sun appears to have no effect on polishing.

Just thought I would ask, because in the past I have shyed away from doing anything at all in direct sunlight.

Andy
101impala

[Holden_Caulfield04]

Re: Apollo Detailing: Full Correction Imola Red '05 BMW 330ci ZHP

Hi there 3Fitty,

You have raised some great questions.

1. In at least one shot (with soap suds on the car) the picture shows a shadow, indicating there was sunlight. I have usually tried to avoid doing any work in the sun, do you think it is okay? Any differences in results from doing it in the sun as opposed to the shade?

Working in the sun is not recommended but I do so on occasion out of necessity. It's Spring here in Canada and the temperature was approximately 12-18 degrees Celsius, 54-64 degrees F. The day was partly cloudy so it wasn't extremely sunny.

When working in the sun, I have to work much harder to prevent water-spotting. I have to be fast and nimble and always have the hose running. The car was also washed in thirds (top, middle, bottom) rather than halfs as I normally do.

The sun appears to have no effect on polishing.

2. Which car wash did you use?

I use gel car wash shampoo carried by a national car care chain. I really like the consistency it has when mixed to my dilution.

In case you're wondering, the reason it doesn't look too sudsy is because I had to set up for a picture.

3. What is your thinking behind the products you used? I saw on your website some discussion about how you don't use products from only one manufacturer, but isn't that as absolutist as the guy who refuses to try anything from multiple manufacturers? I'm curious because (although I am NOT a pro) I think I get pretty great results staying strictly within the Megs family (but having tried many other products). Also, you might be able to cuts costs by using more Megs stuff and pass the savings on to your customers (which I'm sure they'll like).

I think it is great to be open to new ideas and products.

What type of machine do you use? DA, porter cable or something else?

For this detail I used my supercharged PC.

[Holden_Caulfield04]

Re: Apollo Detailing: Full Correction Imola Red '05 BMW 330ci ZHP

Nice work!

We understand how long it takes to do a job like this where you have to undo the swirl damage caused by another detailer. It takes even more time when you stop what you're doing to take pictures so that later you can create a write-up like you've done to share your process with other people.

Thank you very much. I think some might forget that the reason I am here is because I respect Meguiars and the products and knowledge they, like yourself, bring to the table. After all, you can't find me in a Mother's forum.

I wonder where we would be without Meguiars....? Scary thought.

Thank you to all who posted.

[RaskyR1]

Re: Apollo Detailing: Full Correction Imola Red '05 BMW 330ci ZHP

I guess I went a little off topic with my first post...sorry about that.


You did an excellent job on the BMW. Thanks for sharing your work with us.

[J. A. Michaels]

Re: Apollo Detailing: Full Correction Imola Red '05 BMW 330ci ZHP

Raskyr1 great job on the car. It looks like new. Way to go.