1931 Bentley Saloon: Full sand, buff, and detail

[Rob T]

Re: 1931 Bentley Saloon: Full sand, buff, and detail

Unbelievable! Not only are the final results outstanding, but the way that you did the write up is extremely helpful to others who may be considering taking on the daunting task of wet sanding.

In fact, that is how I found this thread, but searching the term "sand" as I am going to be wet sanding a friends car (with very old paint, nothing to "lose").

Thank you, very much, for this superb thread!

[TH0001]

Re: 1931 Bentley Saloon: Full sand, buff, and detail

I'm speachless! :
Just an all out amazing job Todd! The amount of time involved not only in the detailing, but also in the effort put forth to do the write up and wet sanding how-to, is just astonishing ! Great photograpphy skillz too!



I'd also like to say that those were some very awesome words by Kevin Brown! :

Thanks for the compliments Rasky ol' chap(d)...

[RaskyR1]

Re: 1931 Bentley Saloon: Full sand, buff, and detail

I'm speachless! :
Just an all out amazing job Todd! The amount of time involved not only in the detailing, but also in the effort put forth to do the write up and wet sanding how-to, is just astonishing ! Great photograpphy skillz too!



I'd also like to say that those were some very awesome words by Kevin Brown! :

[Desertdawg]

Re: 1931 Bentley Saloon: Full sand, buff, and detail

Thanks Desert. I was trying to be artsy (or however it is spelled) as I am, contary to popular lies, just learning photoshop. I do like your verision much better, what a fun program to mess around with.

Thanks Todd, removing your watermark was a challenge... LOL
If you have any others you want chopped you can post them or send them to me, I'm just a hack at it but it's fun....

[H.E.D]

Re: 1931 Bentley Saloon: Full sand, buff, and detail

Wow!!! What A Masterpice

[Kevin Brown]

Re: 1931 Bentley Saloon: Full sand, buff, and detail

Wow this is more impressive then my right up that you are now hi-jacking with your whimsical copy....

Back on topic then...

Wonderful work on the write-up and the car.

A master paint-polishing craftsman and artist!

[TH0001]

Re: 1931 Bentley Saloon: Full sand, buff, and detail

Oh man, drama from the artist directly...
With all due respect, let me put this in layman's terms, my friend...

Two "art class" graduates attend their first car show.
They see two cars side by side. The first is a Porsche 959 (best car ever made) with a placard giving a guy named Kevin Brown credit for polishing the paint on this pitbull of a car.

"This Kevin guy is deep. Notice how perfectly all those squiggly little lines match up and intersect... It's like he's trying to tell us that, although the car is beautiful, it is only a car. But using only his polishing machine and rudimentary support tools, he is able to relay his passion for mankind, and he is using the car's paint as a canvas which represents the earth, and the squiggly lines represent man, and when mankind works together and criss-crosses paths while working towards one common goal, the earth is a better place."

Next, they see a Bentley with a placard giving Todd credit for polishing the paint on this jewel of a car.

"Sure, I get that, too. But this new age art using electricity and all... it's not for me. Too noisy, anyway, and imagine the carbon footprint. No, REAL art is done by hand. I saw a guy back in 1974, NO!, 1971... yes, and he had created a bee-U-tiful pattern similar to that on the Porsche, YET- it was all done using only the man's hands, a swatch of soft material, some green can of pasty substance, and nothing else. I watched that guy sweating and swearing and throwing things- he had to drink something like 12 beers just to rehydrate and energize his body. That, my friend, was art. I'll bet this car was done by hand, too. It's obvious to me that this Todd chap creates his art by hand. Todd's artwork, as shown on this piece before us represents purity, simplicity, and creativity in a world that is otherwise complicated by technology. The fact that he used a Bentley further supports my thoughts on the matter."

"You are a fool."
No, you're just too shallow to understand the creative heart."

An old codger overhearing this, cannot contain himself. He chimes in.

"Fellas, I don't know a lot about art, but I know paint. And I know cars. And I am here to tell you, it's either right or wrong, black or white. Paint is either perfect, or it ain't perfect. Naw, no gray area when it comes to doin' a job righhhhht. The paint on this car was done by a craftsman. It takes a whole lotta practice to get paint to look like this here. Now that Por-shee... A real fool did that one. Paint polishing is not art- it's a craft. As I just retorted... it's either PERFECT or MESSED UP".

The two art graduates looked confused as the angry old man scuffled away over the horizon.
Kinda like y'all after readin' this silly and foolish made-up story.

The End.

I do believe that someone CAN be an artist and craftsman, though...


art 1 |ärt|
noun
1 the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power.
4 a skill at doing a specified thing, typically one acquired through practice : the art of conversation.

artist |ˈärtist|
noun
• a person skilled at a particular task or occupation : a surgeon who is an artist with the scalpel.

craft |kraft|
noun
• a skilled activity or profession : the historian's craft.
• skill in carrying out one's work : a player with plenty of craft.

craftsman |ˈkraf(t)smən|
noun ( pl. -men)
a person who is skilled in a particular craft.
• an artist.

Wow this is more impressive then my right up that you are now hi-jacking with your whimsical copy....

[Kevin Brown]

Re: 1931 Bentley Saloon: Full sand, buff, and detail

Thanks Kevin. So you say that a true paint polisher is a craftsman and this transends art.. Then you call me an artist...]

Oh man, drama from the artist directly...
With all due respect, let me put this in layman's terms, my friend...

Two "art class" graduates attend their first car show.
They see two cars side by side. The first is a Porsche 959 (best car ever made) with a placard giving a guy named Kevin Brown credit for polishing the paint on this pitbull of a car.

"This Kevin guy is deep. Notice how perfectly all those squiggly little lines match up and intersect... It's like he's trying to tell us that, although the car is beautiful, it is only a car. But using only his polishing machine and rudimentary support tools, he is able to relay his passion for mankind, and he is using the car's paint as a canvas which represents the earth, and the squiggly lines represent man, and when mankind works together and criss-crosses paths while working towards one common goal, the earth is a better place."

Next, they see a Bentley with a placard giving Todd credit for polishing the paint on this jewel of a car.

"Sure, I get that, too. But this new age art using electricity and all... it's not for me. Too noisy, anyway, and imagine the carbon footprint. No, REAL art is done by hand. I saw a guy back in 1974, NO!, 1971... yes, and he had created a bee-U-tiful pattern similar to that on the Porsche, YET- it was all done using only the man's hands, a swatch of soft material, some green can of pasty substance, and nothing else. I watched that guy sweating and swearing and throwing things- he had to drink something like 12 beers just to rehydrate and energize his body. That, my friend, was art. I'll bet this car was done by hand, too. It's obvious to me that this Todd chap creates his art by hand. Todd's artwork, as shown on this piece before us represents purity, simplicity, and creativity in a world that is otherwise complicated by technology. The fact that he used a Bentley further supports my thoughts on the matter."

"You are a fool."
No, you're just too shallow to understand the creative heart."

An old codger overhearing this, cannot contain himself. He chimes in.

"Fellas, I don't know a lot about art, but I know paint. And I know cars. And I am here to tell you, it's either right or wrong, black or white. Paint is either perfect, or it ain't perfect. Naw, no gray area when it comes to doin' a job righhhhht. The paint on this car was done by a craftsman. It takes a whole lotta practice to get paint to look like this here. Now that Por-shee... A real fool did that one. Paint polishing is not art- it's a craft. As I just retorted... it's either PERFECT or MESSED UP".

The two art graduates looked confused as the angry old man scuffled away over the horizon.
Kinda like y'all after readin' this silly and foolish made-up story.

The End.

I do believe that someone CAN be an artist and craftsman, though...


art 1 |ärt|
noun
1 the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power.
4 a skill at doing a specified thing, typically one acquired through practice : the art of conversation.

artist |ˈärtist|
noun
• a person skilled at a particular task or occupation : a surgeon who is an artist with the scalpel.

craft |kraft|
noun
• a skilled activity or profession : the historian's craft.
• skill in carrying out one's work : a player with plenty of craft.

craftsman |ˈkraf(t)smən|
noun ( pl. -men)
a person who is skilled in a particular craft.
• an artist.

[TH0001]

Re: 1931 Bentley Saloon: Full sand, buff, and detail

Awesome job restoring that classic. I bet the owner was happy.

Does orange peeling in the paint come from the factory? If not, what causes orange peeling?

Thanks Honda Fit. Orange peel is a slight texture that can start in any one of the coats and can be caused by any one of a large number of factors that cause the paint to lay or dry uneven. Modern OEM paints are water born (I believe) and the painting is done quickly, hence orange peel.

Nice to see you on this forum. Miss seeing all your excellent work and writeup.
I really like how you show the detailed process of wet sanding. Many people do not realize how much work and effort it takes to correctly wet sand a car.

Fantastic job on this car.

Thank's Xtreme-Klean. Wetsanding can be a lot of work, but if your mind-set is right, it can be an enjoyable challange!

Awesome work Thanks for sharing

Thank you Jeff! It is my pleasure!

Good to see you back on MOL Todd.

Beautiful job on that car. Look forward to many more!

Good show

Thanks Nappers! It is great to be back on here. Thank you for the compliments

Amazing! Awesome write up too! Thanks for the teaser pics a few days ago, im glad so see it came out like you wanted.

Zuke it was by pleasure. Thanks for the compliments buddy!

Wow, that car looks absolutely fantastic. I love that Wet Ice over Fire look you created. All I have to say is, way to go!!!

While I have a huge bias toward the "Wet Ice over Fire", remember that 95% or more of the look comes from the prep. I think even Mike Phillip's personal collection of 'insert crazy off the wall wax' would have looked great.

Wow that is one hot looking ride


Great Work!

Thank you Andrew!

Fantastic work on the Bentley. The results are outstanding.

Excellent write up on the whole process.

Great to see you back posting here.

It is great to be posting here again. I actually began my detailing journey several years ago on this forum, reading (and re-reading) Mike Phillips articles over and over. It is nice to be able to contribute the (hopefully) same quality of work that inspired me.

Holy mother of God!!! That looks amazing!! easily brought the value up 25,000 on that car..

Thank Mr CLRider!!!

Nice work as normal.

I know your friends, so I know your a 'little spoiled' by seeing great work. Thanks for the compliments of course

Amazing write-up and fantastic transformation.

I'll say that maybe some things in life make you stronger, I think what happened to you made you better at writing and showing your work

Thanks Yalerd!

Outstanding!

Thank you Al!

Great writeup and pictures. Those kinda work truly requires lots of patience and great skills. The Bentley looks awesome man!

Inspiring? Yes Motivating? Yes Makes you wanna polish you car at 2am in the morning after seeing this post? Oh yeah!

Heck, my best polishing is done at 2 am! It is the little voice (my wife calls it an obession) that I can only hear at 1am when I am laying in bed telling me I can do a better job. By 2 am I am in my pj's polishing away... Maybe it's time to call a doctor :P

Thank you for the compliments Tim!

Amazing work and great write up once again Todd. Been waiting for a new write up.

Thanks Hemin8r!!!

Wow! amazing job on an amazing car!
Great write up as well!
Car looks tons better!

Thanks John m!

Nice work on the Bentley and great write-up...

We always appreciate it when our members take the time to stop buffing out the car and frame up shots for a thread like this, not only does this make the job take longer but then after the job it still takes a lot of time to process the photos, upload them and then add the words to create a thread that helps others to duplicate your success and/or inspire them to start on their own project.

Thanks Mike!!! You inspired me buddy

Holy buffing-batman WOW! Speechless to say the least. Incredible.

Thanks Roush!

Very nice work, your damn good!!!
And a great write up, thanks.

I thought I would do a little better photochop on your last picture!



Let me know if you want any others done.

Thanks Desert. I was trying to be artsy (or however it is spelled) as I am, contary to popular lies, just learning photoshop. I do like your verision much better, what a fun program to mess around with.

Todd, ive seen alot of pics of your work and this one takes the cake...you are an inspiration to all detailers from noobs to pros...your eye for detail truly defines the word detailing.. thanks for taking the time to photo and describe your process...keep up the awesome work and keep posting on MOL..thanks Rocco

Thanks Rocco for the compliments because they truly mean a lot to me. I'm not going anywhere buddy

That car couldn't have been put into better hands. Nice work!

Thank you Joe Fernandez, now where is my M38? (LOL)

Definitely an awsome job. You just proved that this is an art form that can be done only with patience, knowledge and years of experiance to come up with an awsome finished product like this!

Thanks Sleepy!!!

Yet another illustration of the kind of work I aspire to achieve - 'stunning' seems an appropriate word here...

Mike

Thanks Mike!!

Great work, Todd!

I can really see the richness of that beautiful green paint now, whereas before it want just green paint.
You've inspired me to post about an observation I've contemplated for a long time now...

For years I have seen the term The Art of Polishing Paint being bantered about.
I used to spout the term myself, occasionally blurting something like, "Paint polishing is an art!"

Now, after countless hours standing behind that crazy whirling surface modifiying machine, I have to say that in my opinion, paint polishing is not an art at all.

Instead, I believe that paint polishing (and all things associated with restoring or improving the beauty of a paint job), is a craft that someone learns through education, methodology, and trial & error experience. To become skilled, one must have the desire to take the job to the next level at every opportunity, and must essentially compete against oneself to achieve a better result every time.

Eventually, one uses his talent to reach the level of craftsman.
The best craftsmen among us make paint polishing look easy.
The average guy looks at a craftsman and says, "What talent! You have mastered the ART of polishing paint!"

I believe that is incorrect and discounts years of effort put forth by an individual.
Instead, I say that the paint polisher that has honed his craft is indeed a craftsman.
However- craftsmen that love their work and maintain the desire to make themselves better every time are not just craftsmen.

THEY ARE ARTISTS.

Joe Fernandez from Superior Shine? Paint polishing craftsman and artist.
Steve Brown at Alpine Electronics? Car audio craftsman and artist.
Mike Normile at Normile Concepts? Chassis building craftsman and artist.
But this guy, Todd?

HE is an ARTIST, too.

Great talent, fantastic job.

Thanks Kevin. So you say that a true paint polisher is a craftsman and this transends art.. Then you call me an artist... Thanks for the insult buddy.....








Just kidding, I really appericate the kind words and I know that you get it, more so then I do. You are a fountain of knowledge and it has been my pleasure to pick your brain about the most intricate details of detailing. Heck I just need to think of some more crazy off the wall stuff to pick your brain about!

[Kevin Brown]

Re: 1931 Bentley Saloon: Full sand, buff, and detail

Great work, Todd!

I can really see the richness of that beautiful green paint now, whereas before it want just green paint.
You've inspired me to post about an observation I've contemplated for a long time now...

For years I have seen the term The Art of Polishing Paint being bantered about.
I used to spout the term myself, occasionally blurting something like, "Paint polishing is an art!"

Now, after countless hours standing behind that crazy whirling surface modifiying machine, I have to say that in my opinion, paint polishing is not an art at all.

Instead, I believe that paint polishing (and all things associated with restoring or improving the beauty of a paint job), is a craft that someone learns through education, methodology, and trial & error experience. To become skilled, one must have the desire to take the job to the next level at every opportunity, and must essentially compete against oneself to achieve a better result every time.

Eventually, one uses his talent to reach the level of craftsman.
The best craftsmen among us make paint polishing look easy.
The average guy looks at a craftsman and says, "What talent! You have mastered the ART of polishing paint!"

I believe that is incorrect and discounts years of effort put forth by an individual.
Instead, I say that the paint polisher that has honed his craft is indeed a craftsman.
However- craftsmen that love their work and maintain the desire to make themselves better every time are not just craftsmen.

THEY ARE ARTISTS.

Joe Fernandez from Superior Shine? Paint polishing craftsman and artist.
Steve Brown at Alpine Electronics? Car audio craftsman and artist.
Mike Normile at Normile Concepts? Chassis building craftsman and artist.
But this guy, Todd?

HE is an ARTIST, too.

Great talent, fantastic job.

[MikeEast]

Re: 1931 Bentley Saloon: Full sand, buff, and detail

Yet another illustration of the kind of work I aspire to achieve - 'stunning' seems an appropriate word here...

Mike

[sleepy]

Re: 1931 Bentley Saloon: Full sand, buff, and detail

Definitely an awsome job. You just proved that this is an art form that can be done only with patience, knowledge and years of experiance to come up with an awsome finished product like this!

[Superior Shine]

Re: 1931 Bentley Saloon: Full sand, buff, and detail

That car couldn't have been put into better hands. Nice work!

[RZ Autodetailing]

Re: 1931 Bentley Saloon: Full sand, buff, and detail

Todd, ive seen alot of pics of your work and this one takes the cake...you are an inspiration to all detailers from noobs to pros...your eye for detail truly defines the word detailing.. thanks for taking the time to photo and describe your process...keep up the awesome work and keep posting on MOL..thanks Rocco

[Desertdawg]

Re: 1931 Bentley Saloon: Full sand, buff, and detail

Very nice work, your damn good!!!
And a great write up, thanks.

I thought I would do a little better photochop on your last picture!



Let me know if you want any others done.