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  • Best for black?

    Quick question, been scouring the forums but not really getting a solid answer, is gold class designed/optimized for black cars?

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    Re: Best for black?

    I am probably not answering your question and perhaps you may find it a bit annoying but the following needs to be considered. NO AMOUNT OF WAX... at least the ones I have come across will make a swirled out car out shine a car with a flawless finish with NO WAX.
    2012 Acura CBP TL SH-AWD Tech

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    • #3
      The popular consensus is that Gold Class really deepens the overall look of a darker, well cared for surface. To get the most out of any waxing effort, you'd want your paint as defect and contaminate free, before applying the wax. That being said, Meguiars has recently released Black Wax, especially suited for darked colored vehicles.

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      • #4
        Re: Best for black?

        Thanks for the responses -

        Currently using some ultimate w&w and the ultimate liquid wax ( got in a kit)
        Eager to switch over to the gold class when the ultimate runs out and see if there's any noticeable difference

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        • #5
          Re: Best for black?

          If you prefer the looks of Gold Class over ULW, just layer it over the ULW as ULW will give you the longer protection.
          2012 Acura CBP TL SH-AWD Tech

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            Re: Best for black?

            Originally posted by C8N View Post
            I am probably not answering your question and perhaps you may find it a bit annoying but the following needs to be considered. NO AMOUNT OF WAX... at least the ones I have come across will make a swirled out car out shine a car with a flawless finish with NO WAX.
            +1 The key to a black finish looking its optimum is in the prep work. More so for black than most other colors....
            Black......the ONLY color!

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            • #7
              Re: Best for black?

              The best thing for Black is a good polish or compounding.
              Black shows every flaw so removing every flaw is the best thing to do to get that perfect finish.
              LSP can be anything once the paint is corrected.

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                Re: Best for black?

                Originally posted by hungryman View Post
                Quick question, been scouring the forums but not really getting a solid answer, is gold class designed/optimized for black cars?
                Did we specifically develop Gold Class for black paint? No. We've never done that sort of thing until the introduction of Black Wax (for dark to black) and White Wax (for light to white) but even those can be used on any color, just like any other wax.

                Where you might find Gold Class to be more to your liking on black than some other waxes is down to GC being a carnauba wax with some polishing oils in it. A common argument for carnauba over synthetics on dark colors is that carnauba waxes tend to give a deeper, richer, warmer look on dark colors. If you hold that opinion yourself and therefore prefer carnauba over synthetics on dark colors, then you may well prefer GC over Ultimate on your car.
                Michael Stoops
                Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

                Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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                  Re: Best for black?

                  Mike can't be just layer the carnuba on top of the ulw?

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                  • #10
                    Re: Best for black?

                    Originally posted by Messi View Post
                    Mike can't be just layer the carnuba on top of the ulw?
                    If you wish to apply a carnauba on top of Ultimate Wax then we recommend either Deep Crystal Carnauba, Gold Class Carnauba Plus, or M26 High Tech Yellow Wax. The cleaners in White Wax, Black Wax and of course Cleaner Wax will remove most or all of the Ultimate Wax previously applied so it's best to avoid those as part of a "topping" process.
                    Michael Stoops
                    Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

                    Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Best for black?

                      As for layering Gold Class over Ultimate, I can vouch for it. Tried it last week. After letting two coats of Ultimate Paste cure, I applied Gold Class to half of the hood of my black Saab Aero so I could check out the difference. The side with Ultimate+GC is indeed blacker and richer.

                      As for prep steps necessary to make a black car look good, I can vouch for those, too. My routine: 1) Wash 2) Clay bar 3) ScratchX on scratches 4) Swirl X 5) Ultimate Polish 6) Ultimate Wax. Using a DA polisher, this will take an entire weekend. But it makes the car look amazing. Trying shortcuts (believe me, I've tried) results in less-than-perfect results.

                      I've also discovered that a black car is unforgiving if your technique isn't spot on. The things I've learned about compound/Swirl X/polish:
                      1) Use less product on the pad (a few small dabs will do a section)
                      2) Clean pad with a towel between doing sections
                      3) Go slow with the DA and really work the product
                      4) After doing a section, wipe down THOROUGHLY with a MF towel

                      When waxing:
                      1) Apply a THIN coat
                      2) Allow to haze completely (I give mine at least 30 mins)
                      3) Wipe down by hand
                      4) Buff with DA and MF bonnet

                      Yep, it's all a lot of work, but it's a labor of love.

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                        Re: Best for black?

                        +1 for prepping for black cars, super tedious but its worth it!
                        my routine this year: wash, claybar, swirl remover 2.0, machine glaze, wolfgang paint sealant, ultimate paste wax. after all of that, i use ultimate wash and wax weekly if its only dust and light water marks, and just for overkill, i also put on ultimate quik wax.

                        not only is the car super shiny, its smooooooooooth to the touch....smoother than glass

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                          Re: Best for black?

                          My correction process has been:
                          1. Wash/Clean
                          2. Clay with Regular Detailer
                          3. Ultimate Compound -->> Burgundy-Cutting DA Pad
                          4. Ultimate Polish -->> Yellow-Polishing DA Pad
                          5. Gold Class Liquid Carnauba Wax -->> Beige-Finishing DA Pad


                          By far the most work is the claying and compounding, with the polish step being easier to apply and remove, giving that glassy show car look. The wax step is even easier, and functionally wax just protects all that prep work...but yes, I think Gold Class gives a really sexy look to black you can't get otherwise. No need for two wax layers, as the UC/UP were enough to get the Ultimate look underneath.

                          It's been 5 months now since I did a full correction. The heat and rain have delayed me doing a second correction this year so far. After I do it, I also need to have the front clip's paint chips blended (sanded and airbrushed) out by a professional, too. Since my first correction, I've used Gold Class Quik Detailer and Gold Class Quik Wax prodigiously to keep the car looking perfect

                          I could go on. The difference between Gold Class and Ultimate is subtle, like a golden shine vs a silver shine, but I definitely recommend it as a wax for dark and black, regularly boosted by the Quik version so you don't have to care about how long it did or didn't last. My black is a metallic pearl, which looks like a custom paint job due to these steps and due to using Gold Class!
                          Non-Garaged Daily Driver, DAMF System + M101, Carnauba Finish Enthusiast
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