Expensive LSP's

[Eddie6th]

Re: Expensive LSP's

I think 30-40$'s is expensive for a wax.If people want to spend, and can afford to spend 300+ $'s for a tub of wax,that's fine.If they claim it's better,it could be purely psychological,and they believe it is better.

I still have two waxes in my posession,which I have used many years ago.One is 'Mer' and the other is a cheapo off of a supermarket shelf.Both work well if the surface is spotless,and the cost is very cheap.I used the Mer about 2 years ago on a freinds car and it was fine.The other one I use for outdoor painted surfaces.I prefer to use waxes,or give to a freind,rather than throw them away.

Out of all the waxes that I have tried,I found that Meg's has given me the best appearance and longevity.

[AeroCleanse]

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I think 30-40$'s is expensive for a wax.If people want to spend, and can afford to spend 300+ $'s for a tub of wax,that's fine.If they claim it's better,it could be purely psychological,and they believe it is better.

Or it could be that they are better. When you detail for a living, even a $1,100 can of wax isn't much when you figure how much it is per car you detail.

[Tim Lingor]

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How do you define "expensive" in this case?

To me, NXT 2.0 for $14 at Walmart is still pretty damn expensive!

I used to use Megs Classic Wax, Mother's California Gold Wax, NuFinish which all cost under $10 a bottle lol

Where in BC are you finding NXT 2.0 for $14? It retails in Canada for $29.99. You must be buying your supplies south of the border.

Tim

[akimel]

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Where in BC are you finding NXT 2.0 for $14? It retails in Canada for $29.99. You must be buying your supplies south of the border.

Or maybe its getting smuggled by Megs' secret runners into Canuckland?

[Tim Lingor]

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Hey,

The debate about boutique waxes will go on and on! In the end, if a person believes or can actually see the differences with their own eyes and they like what they see, then that is all that matters. Some carnauba waxes may leave a nice "carnauba wax glow" that some people may like while others will prefer optical clarity showing what the paint truly looks like. Again, which ever you personally prefer is up to you.

Just like sealants, there are big differences; perhaps not in looks per se, but in gloss, durability and longevity of that freshly waxed look. Again, what looks and works best to and for the individual is what matters.


Tim

[the_invisible]

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Unfortunately, I find even the most reserving posts in this thread to be very subjective. That's how I see them through my own subjective eyes anyway.

This topic has always been a can of worms on detailing forums. Post like this often ends without a consensus or a sensible conclusion. It just divides people into groups. While that is absolutely fine on detail forums that are not solely operated by a single brand of wax maker, keep in mind that this is a Meguiars forum.

I wonder why nobody ever submits samples of different waxes to chemists to have them analyze the chemical compositions of different types of wax. They have been doing that to motor oils for years and tests like this is often very cheap. I wouldn't be surprised if Meguiar's own chemists have a huge selection of many different waxes from different makers for research and development purposes.

[Markus Kleis]

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Unfortunately, I find even the most reserving posts in this thread to be very subjective. That's how I see them through my own subjective eyes anyway.

This topic has always been a can of worms on detailing forums. Post like this often ends without a consensus or a sensible conclusion. It just divides people into groups.

Exactly. Which is why I am going to kindly remind everyone in advance that we certainly appreciate and allow for opinions on MOL, we don't allow for people to berate others, bash others, or argue with others. Discussions are welcome, arguments and negativity are not.

So please carry on, but please remain civil.

Thank you!!

[beautechnique-scott]

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ive got to say that if a paint is level and corrected any LSP will do it justice, its the life span of the LSP which is a major factor IMO.
best off show glazing, sealing then waxing, best durability and gloss will come from this.
ive used swissvax ( not impressed for the money ), zymol ( some are good but i wouldnt sing about them ), duragloss ( im an authorised user ) dodo juice which im fond of but like theSV and zymol is a tad costly, meguiars, ive used nxt liquid wax, No16 mirror glaze paste wax and gold class paste wax ( wasnt that good IMO ) i think meguiars is a very good competitor with higher end LSP's for good cash and turtlewax original paste which is still a great wax for not much cash at all ( i get it for the equivilant of $2 ).
even with the rule of thumb method of washing techniques and ph neuatral wash solutions used ive never found a wax last more than 3 month tops without a sealant underneath.

[imacarnut]

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In the end, it comes down to what works for YOU and what YOU like. Some people feel by buying a more expensive product, that it will yield better results and that isn't always necessarily true. Try a product out and make your own conclusions...

[CieraSL]

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In the end, it comes down to what works for YOU and what YOU like. Some people feel by buying a more expensive product, that it will yield better results and that isn't always necessarily true. Try a product out and make your own conclusions...

Just follow Mike Phillips advice: "Find something you like and use it often." He has never said, Find something everybody else likes, he says, find something you like. It only matters to you.

[3Fitty]

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I've seen certain LSPs darken paint more than others, but I haven't really been able to notice a discernable difference between LSPs (not even between Carnauba's and Sealants).

I'm not doubting Aero Cleanse saw a difference but my guess is that most people probably won't, that is why the subjectivity of the looks question makes it impossible to justify a spendy LSP IMHO.

I recently tried Blackfire Wet Diamond and I fell in love, but not necessarily based on looks. It is very similar to NXT (which is another fave of mine) but BFWD goes on about the same, comes off a bit easier, doesn't stain trim and is the slickest feeling LSP I've ever used. Add to that it is $10 cheaper than NXT (in Soviet Canuckistan) and it is a no-brainer.

[3Fitty]

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Just follow Mike Phillips advice: "Find something you like and use it often." He has never said, Find something everybody else likes, he says, find something you like. It only matters to you.

He has defected to China, you are not longer permitted to quote "he who shall not be named".

[CieraSL]

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What's the matter 3Fitty, are you going into Mike Phillips withdrawal? Oh, excuse me, perhaps I should have said, are you going into "he who shall not be named" withdrawal?

[3Fitty]

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Got home from work about 4 hours before I expected... just ultra-mischievous today!!! LOL

[CieraSL]

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Wish I was feeling mischievous. I had to get dressed up to give a group presentation in class tonight. I'm taking summer classes. But this is the last week! Hooray! I hate getting dressed up. It's T-shirts, shorts, and flip flops for me. I wanna go home and clean my car!