best product to remove swirls by hand???

[akimel]

Re: best product to remove swirls by hand???

Though I am a strong believer in purchasing Meguiar's products with resellers like Auto Detailing Solutions, when it comes to the G110 polisher, I think a lot can be said for ordering it directly from Meguiar's. If it ever needs to be exchanged, I think it is easier to deal directly with the company:

http://meguiarsdirect.com/detail/MEG+G110

[Mike Phillips]

Re: best product to remove swirls by hand???

can you send me a link to your buffer? and what pads to use with it

If you read this forum long enough you'll note that we don't hard sell anything by Meguiar's on this forum. The goal is to answer questions and thus solve problems. If our products will solve our member's problems the products will sell themselves.

My point on our polisher is this, the hardest step and the step that takes the most time is the step where you remove the swirls out of the paint, this means the step where you remove a little paint.

DA Polishers like our and the Porter Cable Unit, (which Meguiar's introduced to the detailing world back in the early 1990's before everyone and their brother put up a website and added these tools to their store), are popular because they are safe and easy to use as compared to a rotary buffer.

Their safety feature is also the reason it takes longer to remove swirls and this is because they have a clutch which stops the pad from spinning when too much pressure is applied or the pad is not held flat on a flat surface.

The specific point is this, more power is better and means doing the swirl removal step faster. You can use both tools to remove the swirls out of paint but our G110 will tend to enable you to do this faster because of the little bit of extra power.

It's all about keeping the pad rotating while doing the cleaning step as that's when paint is removed best. Just some tidbits of information based upon years of experience using these tools and teaching others how to use them.

Here's the link,

G110 Dual Action Polisher



All of our small pads will work on this tool, our new 7" Soft Buff pads are washable. The most common question that comes up in our classes when it comes to working by machine is,

How to you clean the pads?


People figure out at around $14.00 a pad you want to use them more than once thus the above question...


Washable 7" Soft Buff 2.0 Foam Pads
W8207 - Washable Foam Polishing Pad
W9207 - Washable Foam Finishing Pad




Fear not, if you decide to go with another polisher and someone else's pads and even chemicals we'll still be happy to help you get the best results from your time, money and efforts.

[CieraSL]

Re: best product to remove swirls by hand???

can you send me a link to your buffer? and what pads to use with it

Here are the sites I found:

http://www.autogeek.net/meguiars-dual-action-polisher-g110.html

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001O7I7MQ/ref=asc_df_B001O7I7MQ719819?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=shopzilla_rev_120-20&linkCode=asn

Hope this helps!

[jaxxx]

Re: best product to remove swirls by hand???

Others will probably chime in with some suggestions on this but for what it's worth ours has more power and this equates to more ability to keep the pad rotating during the cleaning step, something you'll appreciate about 15 minutes into any detailing session.

can you send me a link to your buffer? and what pads to use with it

[Tuck91]

Re: best product to remove swirls by hand???

i just did a little test spot with Swirl X today by hand and the results blew me away, i can say for sure that this Super Micro Abrasive Technology is simply amazing

[Mike Phillips]

Re: best product to remove swirls by hand???

thanks, know a place I can get a deal on a porter cable?

Others will probably chime in with some suggestions on this but for what it's worth ours has more power and this equates to more ability to keep the pad rotating during the cleaning step, something you'll appreciate about 15 minutes into any detailing session.

[jaxxx]

Re: best product to remove swirls by hand???

thanks, know a place I can get a deal on a porter cable?

[Mike Phillips]

Re: best product to remove swirls by hand???

it would take too much effort to do the whole car.

The reason it takes as much effort as it does to remove swirls and scratches by hand or machine has to do with the paint your car manufactures uses to protect the underlying panels and make your car look good. (We don't have any control over the paint or how difficult it is to work on).

I rather just get the porter cable and get better results from removing swirls, polishing , and waxing.

There's a reason for the last 15+ years people have been moving up to machine polishing instead of working by hand and a big part of the reason is because how hard and how long it takes for the average person to work swirls and scratches out of modern paints.

so would the porter cable 7424 do the job?? what kind of swirl remover and pad should i use to get rid of the swirls?
can you also recommend what polish, wax or sealant to finish it off.

Same advice as given above and that's to test a product by machine to see if it's effective and then go from there. Unlike the human being, the machine doesn't get tired and has plenty of consistent power to work a product, thus one product may not be aggressive enough by hand but it might be aggressive enough by machine and pad choice, you just don't know until you do a Test Spot.

Chances are good you'll want and need Ultimate Compound to remove the defects and SwirlX to bring the finish to a super clear, high gloss and then you're choice of wax to seal in all your hard wax.

[jaxxx]

Re: best product to remove swirls by hand???

well I just exchanged the swirlX , thought about getting the ultimate compound but decided to just wait and get a porter cable 7424 instead, I figured If i get the ultimate compound to work, lets say after 3 coats , it would take too much effort to do the whole car. I rather just get the porter cable and get better results from removing swirls, polishing , and waxing.

I realized when applying the cleaner/wax how much effort it took to get it to the right consistency. Too much labor to do the swirls remover, polish, and then wax on the whole car.

Just got me some all wheel cleaner instead cause my 335i produces too much brake dust.

so would the porter cable 7424 do the job?? what kind of swirl remover and pad should i use to get rid of the swirls?
can you also recommend what polish, wax or sealant to finish it off.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: best product to remove swirls by hand???

Paint systems are different, some paints are easier to remove swirls out of than others, check out this thread,

http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30583

[Mike Phillips]

Re: best product to remove swirls by hand???

It is my understanding that Meguiar's has a 100% satisfaction guarantee. If you are not happy with one of their products, return the product, with receipt, from the store you bought it and get your money back.

Correct.

It sounds as if SwirlX simply is insufficiently aggressive for the paint system of your vehicle. You might consider stepping up to Ultimate Compound (in which case you might want to keep SwirlX to use as a finishing polish) or consider purchasing a dual-action polisher.

Correct again, maybe read through this thread too..

http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30485

[akimel]

Re: best product to remove swirls by hand???

It is my understanding that Meguiar's has a 100% satisfaction guarantee. If you are not happy with one of their products, return the product, with receipt, from the store you bought it and get your money back.

It sounds as if SwirlX simply is insufficiently aggressive for the paint system of your vehicle. You might consider stepping up to Ultimate Compound (in which case you might want to keep SwirlX to use as a finishing polish) or consider purchasing a dual-action polisher.

[jaxxx]

Re: best product to remove swirls by hand???

ok just finished washing my car...

first, clay bar did wonders, it smooth out the paint and got about 50% of the contamination. It didnt get all of the rust spots in the back of the bumper but it looks much better and smoother.

then the SWIRLX, well ....It didnt do nothing... I worked it on a small area on the hood in the shade.. did about 3 coats, taking 2-3 minutes on each coat. I cant see any change or improvement. I was hoping for a little improvement atleast.
Is there any way to return or exhange this?? I bought it at adavnce auto parts.

I only did hood , roof , and trunk and just ended up fisnihing it off with the cleaner/wax that came with the clay bar kit. looks good, nice and smooth finish. Swirls is still there though when looking at it from an angle with the sun hitting the spot.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: best product to remove swirls by hand???

when can i use this cleaner/wax in the process???

1. wash
2.clay bar w/ quick detailer
3. SwirlX
4. cleaner/wax

is this the right process?

That is the correct process.

After washing and drying and then claying the paint and wiping off the Quik Detailer residue after you clay a section you should be left with clean, dry, smooth paint.

Now apply the SwirlX to one small section and inspect your results as compared to surrounding paint. You need to insure you're product and process are giving your the results you want in one small section before going over the entire car.

If SwirlX isn't working fast enough or effectively enough then you'll want to move to Ultimate Compound.

[jaxxx]

Re: best product to remove swirls by hand???

i waxed and polished cars before, I been reading alot about the proper way to detail a car.
1. apply product in a small section in over lapping rotation, shaded area, start with very light pressure, apply little more afrer each coat and try a few more application until desired results....??
I actually just bought a clay bar kit from meguiars and the swirlX. The clay kit also came with the cleaner/wax bottle. when can i use this cleaner/wax in the process???

1. wash
2.clay bar w/ quick detailer
3. swirlX
4. cleaner/wax

is this the right process?