M105?

[Sal329]

After seeing some great results with 105 by hand what kind of applicators are best to use?

[BlueZero]

Re: M105?

I use the yellow foam ones. Tim seems to like the microfiber ones. I think it all depends on the paint and how much 'bite' you are looking for.

[Murr1525]

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The most bite would be terry cloth, but as mentioned, you would need to finish with foam to get the best finish.

[jmakado]

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I prefer microfibers for #105. They seem to have enough "bite" to work the product well, yet also soft enough that it doesn't mar.

[Mike Phillips]

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I use the yellow foam ones. Tim seems to like the microfiber ones. I think it all depends on the paint and how much 'bite' you are looking for.

Both foam and microfiber are gentle to the paint when used correctly to apply a product, remember besides your choice of product and application material your process is also a huge factor. Process = how you're applying the product, when working by hand this could be easy and gentle, carefully spreading a product out and working it in, or faster and with more pressure as in "putting some passion behind the pad".

The most bite would be terry cloth, but as mentioned, you would need to finish with foam to get the best finish.

Cotton terry cloth is the most aggressive out of the three commonly available options, cotton, foam and microfiber but with good technique microfiber can finish out as well and even better than foam.

I prefer microfibers for #105. They seem to have enough "bite" to work the product well, yet also soft enough that it doesn't mar.

And a part of your success is your choice of material but more important is your technique for using both products. Focusing on the task at hand is alway a great help too...

[Murr1525]

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I will have to try it with MF, I figured the foam would be most gentle and stuck with that so far.

[pwaug]

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I tried foam, terry and MF and ended up following Tim's recommendation for MF. It finished up the best and left no marring of it's own like the terry and foam.

[Sal329]

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Sounds good thanks guys. I just picked up 4 bags of Meguiars Foam yellow pads at my new favorite store. I guess I will try the foam and MF first see how it goes. Well after I pick up some 105 lol

[Nappers]

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ADS sells sample packs and I'm pretty sure that Kevin Brown (of MOL) has samples too with pretty good know how of it's capabilities

[99BlackStangMan]

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I used the #105 today and didn't quite get the results that others have. I applied the 105 using a new terry cloth twice and then followed it up using a new meguiars MF applicator. I pressed quite hard using the terry cloth and the MF, then lightened up a bit for the last use with the MF. Just about all of the water spots and other small defects are gone, but it only removed about 1/2 the swirls.

[Markus Kleis]

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I used the #105 today and didn't quite get the results that others have. I applied the 105 using a new terry cloth twice and then followed it up using a new meguiars MF applicator. I pressed quite hard using the terry cloth and the MF, then lightened up a bit for the last use with the MF. Just about all of the water spots and other small defects are gone, but it only removed about 1/2 the swirls.

You have to remember you are doing something by hand that is intended for a rotary. Removing swirls can take a couple to a few passes sometimes even with a rotary, so 100% defect removal with your hand and a towel may be a bit too optimistic

Do you own any polishers or buffers?

[Mike Phillips]

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Just about all of the water spots and other small defects are gone, but it only removed about 1/2 the swirls.

Sounds like the product is working, you're just not done yet.

Remember, we don't make the paint, paint manufactures make it to car manufactures specifications, I don't think car manufactures are asking for paints that the average person can work on by hand. Doubt they'll ever take this feature into consideration.

Modern clear coat paints are not user-friendly, they're not like the old single stage paints pre-1980

Those paints had their faults, (oxidation), but they were easier to work on. Modern clear coat paints last a lot longer and that's in part due to the type of resin used to make them and their resulting hardness.

So you have to sacrifice your ability to easily work on them for a finish that will last longer, just don't confuse the words Last Longer with Look good Longer. There's 2 letter "L's" in those two groups of words but a world of difference.

Here's a challenge, find a product that works better by hand. By the word better we mean a product that can be used by hand to remove below surface defects out of the paint without scratching and scouring the paint at the same time. If you can find one... first use it, and second... share it with everyone you meet trying to get swirls, scratches and water spots out of their clear coat paint by hand.

[BlueZero]

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Sal329, you will have a sample of M105 and some D151 to try in a few days! Thanks for the trade.

[99BlackStangMan]

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I give up! I'm buy a polisher. The G110 seems to be quite popular. Research time. . .

[Sal329]

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Thank you BlueZero yours is going out today.