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    Hi, I started using rotary buffer for application, cleaners, wax, etc.. I found that if I dont use it the right way, I gets bumps or the machine pull my arms, I dont know that these machines are so powerful and staying in the path is difficult sometimes, I found also if I use it in angles it runs for one direction or another it depends of the angle. I know, I need more practice, I dont want to happends this bumps or that the machine runs into the trims, etc. What I can do for this things? Tips? There are a guide for this things? Thanks

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    Re: A few questions

    Sounds like your problem is that you are not keeping the pad flat. If it isn't flat, one side is going to "grab" the paint and try to pull the buffer and you in a direction, dependent on the rotation. I believe that if it is spinning clockwise, and you tilt the buffer to your right, it should pull you forward, and vice versa.

    What exactly do you mean by bumps? Do you mean it hops or something of that sort? Really all it probably is, is just not keeping your pad flat. Practice some more with it and you'll get the hang of it.

    I once put swirls in my paint just to see what it looked like.

    I don't always detail cars, but when I do, I prefer Meguiar's.
    Remove swirls my friends.

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    • #3
      Re: A few questions

      Thankyou, yeah I mean it hops, I will practice more and mantain the pad flat. Thank you again.

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      • #4
        Re: A few questions

        I learned to use a rotary several years (decades) ago. It's not that hard, it just takes some common sense and a lot of practice. Here's a few tips that may help:

        1) Get a junk body panel, or a junk car, to learn on. Just makes good sense.

        2) Keep the pad flat against the surface you're working on and resist the temptation to use an edge. Lifting the pad slightly to use only part of it is a very effective technique for some situations, but that comes later after you've learned how to use the machine. To start out, concentrate on keeping the pad flat.

        3) Don't fight the machine, controll it. The buffer should "float" over the panel you're working on, with you providing just enough effort to make it go where you want. If you are struggling with the buffer something is wrong.

        4) When in doubt, slow the machine down, especially if you are having problems controlling it. No one ever messed up a polish job by running their buffer too slow, but running it too fast causes all kinds of trouble.

        Hope this helps, good luck!
        I saw it on the Internet...it must be true!

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        • #5
          Re: A few questions

          Originally posted by ShinyChevy View Post
          1) Get a junk body panel, or a junk car, to learn on.

          2) Keep the pad flat against the surface you're working on and resist the temptation to use an edge.

          3) Don't fight the machine, controll it. The buffer should "float"..

          4) When in doubt, slow the machine down ...
          These are four very good points, and SPOT ON !
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          Ignorance can be overcome but stupid lasts forever !

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          • #6
            Re: A few questions

            thankyou I just posted another question in Detailing 101 that is how many product I need for X area. I have M 105/205 still not used it. and how use it? I read a lot but read about diminishing polishes and I read that 105 not diminish, so it change of color? how I know when to stop?

            Thanks

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            • #7
              Re: A few questions

              In a strange and similar way, this thread reminds me of using a floor buffer for the first time. Man, that thing threw me all over the house the first few hours, then I learned to guide the machine versus trying to force it where I wanted it to go. Once I got the hang of it, I was doing rooms and running the machine with 2 fingers.

              Similar to my situation, once you learn to let the buffer float over the panels and you focus on guiding the tool, you should see better results and get more enjoyment from polishing.

              NOTE: Post count does not reflect actual detailing knowledge.

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              • #8
                Re: A few questions

                wow hehe. m 105/205 changes color when they worked or I need to know when to stop?

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                • #9
                  Re: A few questions

                  Sounds like your pad needs a mist of water and you need a shot of Jack Daniels

                  If your nervous you will be fighting the machine. You should be able to control the machine with 1 hand

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                  • #10
                    Re: A few questions

                    Originally posted by prbrianpr View Post
                    wow hehe. m 105/205 changes color when they worked or I need to know when to stop?
                    This color change you are expierencing.....it wouldn't happen to be the same color as your car now would it

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                    • #11
                      Re: A few questions

                      Originally posted by Flash Gordon View Post
                      This color change you are expierencing.....it wouldn't happen to be the same color as your car now would it
                      No, I still not used the polishers, is that i saw that UC changes to transparent when done I though that M 105/205 was equal.

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                      • #12
                        Re: A few questions

                        Originally posted by ColonelCash View Post
                        In a strange and similar way, this thread reminds me of using a floor buffer for the first time. Man, that thing threw me all over the house the first few hours, then I learned to guide the machine versus trying to force it where I wanted it to go. Once I got the hang of it, I was doing rooms and running the machine with 2 fingers.

                        Similar to my situation, once you learn to let the buffer float over the panels and you focus on guiding the tool, you should see better results and get more enjoyment from polishing.

                        You said exactly what I was trying to figure out how to say it...PRACTCE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE.

                        Bill

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                        • #13
                          Re: A few questions

                          Originally posted by prbrianpr View Post
                          No, I still not used the polishers, is that i saw that UC changes to transparent when done I though that M 105/205 was equal.
                          Actually, all 3 of these products never turn transparent. If you look at your rag/pad, it should have a tan tint

                          No, all 3 products differ in strenght

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                          • #14
                            Re: A few questions

                            Ok then when I get a tan tint that is that the product has worked?

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                              Re: A few questions

                              Originally posted by prbrianpr View Post
                              Ok then when I get a tan tint that is that the product has worked?
                              Yes, unless you have single stage paint, then you "may" get some color ruboff off of your paint. Other then that, whatever color the product your using, will be the same color thats on your towel/pad after removal

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