Black Benz

[gorin002]

Re: Black Benz

nice show what a shine

[veedub Mike]

Re: Black Benz

Does either of these two cars in this discussion have the Ceramiclear paint?

Hi Mike!
Ceramiclear was introduced by Mercedes-Benz in late 2002. So the first MB in this discussion probably does not.

[Blink74]

It is an E320.

[RamAirV1]

NXT will definitely give better results than GC or #26. They are very good products, but the NXT will take your black Benz to the next level! I would use #83, #80 if any marring remains, then #81, then 2 applications of NXT Paste with 12-24 hours between coats.

RamAirV1

[atclew]

Re: Black Benz

Originally posted by Blink74
Recently we bought a 2002 Black Benz in need of some seriuos TLC.

What model of MB did you and "Household 6" buy?

[Blink74]

Great thread guys, Thanx.

BTW, I show my wif some of the before and after pics of black cars on the forum and she volunteered to but the PC. Needless to say she was impressed. Hopefully I can deliver the same results on her car.

[atclew]

Originally posted by Blink74
Will the NXT give me the same or better results than the GC or #26.

Pics of the Benz are forthcoming but, in the meantime...

I'll repost a pic here of my folks PT Cruiser that I detailed for them this past July 4th weekend. The finish had very little defects in it so we just clayed it, used #81 and finished with NXT, both by hand.

The NXT seems to give a very deep, mirrorlike reflection on darker finishes.

[atclew]

Originally posted by Mike Phillips
Does either of these two cars in this discussion have the Ceramiclear paint?

Very good question Mike, that's on my "things to do list" tomorrow. I've got to call for my first maintenance anyway, I'll ask them then.


[Originally posted by Mike Phillips
...the reason that many people follow the M83 with the M80 Speed Glaze is because the M80 Speed Glaze is a cleaner/polish, in Meguiar's terminology, this means it contains a diminishing abrasive which will help to remove any micro-marring, or hazing left on some finishes after using the M83 with the dual action polisher.

You know, I've got to the M80 a try now! I'm very curious to see what difference it could/would make!


Thanks again for weighing in on the subject Mike!

[Mike Phillips]

Originally posted by AutoNova
Where can you find the blue masking tape used to tape up the benz and where did those wheel covers come from?

I usually get the blue tape from our local PBE store when I'm getting other supplies but you can find the wide stuff pretty easy and most stores. It's the thin painters tapes that are hard to find and these can be found at PBE stores.

I always take newspapers with me when I detail a car and make my own wheel covers. Yes, I know you can purchase wheel covers, but old habit die hard and sometimes the wheel covers you purchase won't fit all the tires of all the car you detail, so newspapers and tape works on everything...

[Mike Phillips]

Originally posted by atclew
#83 responds very well with the MB's paint and you should see noticeable results with it.

Does either of these two cars in this discussion have the Ceramiclear paint?

I'm still a novice user with the PC and I'm already getting fantastic results using the quality advice in these forums!

It's nice to read this as I know we have a lot of forum members here that are always willing to share their advice and experience.

I know alot of people are following the #83 up with #80 but, I tend to prefer #81 applied with the PC. I finish it all off with NXT. It just makes the finish "pop".

M81 Hand Polish is a pure polish, that is it contains no ingredients with the intended purpose of cleaning, or abrading the finish, just add beauty. That said, the reason that many people follow the M83 with the M80 Speed Glaze is because the M80 Speed Glaze is a cleaner/polish, in Meguiar's terminology, this means it contains a diminishing abrasive which will help to remove any micro-marring, or hazing left on some finishes after using the M83 with the dual action polisher.

The best thing to do is to test on your specific paint type to see what produces the best results. M83/M81 works for Lew, but please do be aware that you may need to try the M83/M80 combo also. Like I always post,

You don't know what you can do until you try..."

And in some cases, you don't know what you can do until you test...

[AutoNova]

Where can you find the blue masking tape used to tape up the benz and where did those wheel covers come from?

[Blink74]

Thanx for the congrats. We've actually had the car for a year now. My wife loves it and will never drive anything else again. Me? I'm a truck Guy. But there is no denying the luxury and stye of the Benz.

I learned how to wax cars using #16 and #26 when I was a kid (Dad is a Meguiars fan). Since then I've tried several different waxes and such. Most recently I used Mothers reflections (Synthetic similar to NXT) and it worked well. It is east to use, very reflective and left one hell of a shine. However, there is just something missing that I get with the Yellow wax. I'm not sure exactly what the definition of "depth" is, but, I'm guessing that's whats missing. Will the NXT give me the same or better results than the GC or #26.

[atclew]

Originally posted by Blink74
I believe the trim is painted

First off, Conga-rats on your new (to you), Mercedes! I purchased an '03 C320 4-matic this past Dec. and absolutely love it.

Most of the trim on later model MB's are painted. I just usually tape off the trim along the bottom of the door windows when using the PC.

#83 responds very well with the MB's paint and you should see noticeable results with it. I'm still a novice user with the PC and I'm already getting fantastic results using the quality advice in these forums! I know alot of people are following the #83 up with #80 but, I tend to prefer #81 applied with the PC. I finish it all off with NXT. It just makes the finish "pop".

[Mike Phillips]

Originally posted by Blink74
Thank you for the speedy response. Do you remove the tape for the wax or wax the trim (I believe the trim is painted) after you are done with the PC? Also, would you recommend a rotary buffer instead, or, a random orbital due to my inexperience?

If the trim is painted, then you don't need to tape it off, just try not to get excess product into the cracks and crevices.

Rotary buffers are for removing serious paint defects, if you've never used one before, you certainly don't want to learn on a black Mercedes-Benz!

Stick with the dual action polisher.

[Blink74]

Thank you for the speedy response. Do you remove the tape for the wax or wax the trim (I believe the trim is painted) after you are done with the PC? Also, would you recommend a rotary buffer instead, or, a random orbital due to my inexpirence?