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  • Piku
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    Re: blackfire wet ice over fire shine

    Originally posted by yakky View Post
    I have only used it BFWD once, but I really like it. It does indeed look similar to NXT, however it is much slicker without being oily. Only time will tell....
    I have BFWD but have not had a chance to use it yet. So many products and just two cars to wax/seal.

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  • yakky
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    I have only used it BFWD once, but I really like it. It does indeed look similar to NXT, however it is much slicker without being oily. Only time will tell....

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  • CieraSL
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    Re: blackfire wet ice over fire shine

    Originally posted by Jeff U View Post
    Photos on different days and lighting so not exactly a side by side comparison.

    Polished with M105/M205 and waxed with two coats of P21s:






    I went over again lightly with M205 and then applied two coats Blackfire & two coats P21s:




    Wow! That's awesome!

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  • Jeff U
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    Originally posted by fzr confused View Post
    cool, although i have no idea what that other stuff is lol...i was wondering if anyone had an NXT 2.0/blackfire hood or something to see the difference.
    Photos on different days and lighting so not exactly a side by side comparison.

    Polished with M105/M205 and waxed with two coats of P21s:






    I went over again lightly with M205 and then applied two coats Blackfire & two coats P21s:



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  • BlueZero
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    Thanks guys!

    I've been wanting to try out another sealant. I was thinking Duragloss 105, maybe I'll give the BFWD a try too.

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  • Jokeman
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    I am gonna try to do my whole truck with blackfire hopefully this weekend for the 4th. I miss the slickness with some of the other stuff I have been trying.

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  • Markus Kleis
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    Sure sounds like someone spent some considerable time working with the nomenclature of those products. Kudos to them, the marketing alone should move their products pretty well. I know I am a sucker for a catchy name or package sometimes...

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  • 3Fitty
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    Originally posted by Jeff U View Post
    It would not work well for a professional detailer since it looks best with two coats of Blackfire that must be at least 8 hours apart. Then you need another 8 hours cure time before waxing.
    I've tried it both ways and couldn't see a discernable difference between 1 or 2 applications. I prefer two, only to ensure uniform coverage, although I've also seen the makers of the product say what you wrote. Personally, I think it's just marketing.

    BTW - The Blackfire Wet Diamond is difficult, if not impossible, to completely clean from the pads after use. So set aside a pad or two that you will use only with Blackfire.
    Very true. I have a dedicated W9006 pad for it which has never been used with anything else (although I also have one for NXT 2.0).

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  • 3Fitty
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    Re: blackfire wet ice over fire shine

    Originally posted by BlueZero View Post
    If I'm understanding this right blackfire wet ice over fire shine is really two products? Wet Diamond and Midnight Sun = Wet Ice Over Fire Shine?
    Yup. There has been some discussion that Midnight Sun improves depth it takes away some of the slickness.

    I've never tried Midnight Sun so I can't speak to it, but frankly BFWD looked so good I didn't feel the need to enhance it.

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  • Jeff U
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    I tried Blackfire Wet Diamond and followed it up with P21s. Not quite the Wet Ice over Fire, since I did not have any of the Midnight Sun, but I was pleased with the results. I will continue to use it in the future and once I use up my P21s I am going to try Midnight Sun.

    I think it improved the look from simply P21s alone.

    It would not work well for a professional detailer since it looks best with two coats of Blackfire that must be at least 8 hours apart. Then you need another 8 hours cure time before waxing.

    BTW - The Blackfire Wet Diamond is difficult, if not impossible, to completely clean from the pads after use. So set aside a pad or two that you will use only with Blackfire.

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  • fzr confused
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    correwct bluezero, it is 2 products ...the BFWD is "cheap" and then the top layer is midnight sun and its kinda pricey (for me at least) lol

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  • BlueZero
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    If I'm understanding this right blackfire wet ice over fire shine is really two products? Wet Diamond and Midnight Sun = Wet Ice Over Fire Shine?

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  • 3Fitty
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    Yeah, there is no doubt that NXT is cheaper for you and you can't go wrong with it, but if you ever get the urge to experiment, try BFWD.

    It's biggest advantage over NXT is that it doesn't stain trim and if you're sloppy like me, that makes a difference. My bet is that when Meg's comes out with NXT 3.0 it'll be non-staining.

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  • fzr confused
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    yeah here in the USA NXT is under 20 and the BFWD is about 30 plus shipping....but its that midnight sun that is pricey lol

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  • 3Fitty
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    Long time NXT 2.0 user and tried BF Wet Diamond recently and I love it (and I'm no company guy).

    I'm pretty tough on LSP's and I really like NXT 2.0 (on of my favorites). IMHO, BFWD and NXT 2.0 look about the same, but the Blackfire creates a much slicker surface (never felt anything so slick).

    I'm going on about 4-5 weeks with BF and it is still beading tightly.

    Also, whether or not you can believe this... In Canada...

    NXT = $27.99 (walmart) and BFWD = $19.99 + shipping.

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