Meguiars brunei bad reputation

[Justin Murphy]

Re: Meguiars brunei bad reputation

Meguiars has come through for me on even extreme cases within reason ofcourse. I agree that you can only do so much especially when the clear coat is failing.
Some of my customers are wowed and the first thing they ask is oh do you use zymol or something? When I tell them it's Meguiars they seem to be surprised. Probably because they see many Meguiars products over the counter they think it's not a professional line.

Over the counter is one main reason. I've wowed a lot with the A line Cleaner Wax. They thought that I used something more expensive than what they were paying for. Price has nothing to do with initial quality. It's the techinique and expertise that my customer's are paying for.

[Hemin8r]

Re: Meguiars brunei bad reputation

Over the counter is one main reason. I've wowed a lot with the A line Cleaner Wax. They thought that I used something more expensive than what they were paying for. Price has nothing to do with initial quality. It's the techinique and expertise that my customer's are paying for.

I agree 100%

[the other pc]

Re: Meguiars brunei bad reputation

where are you from?

I’m guessing he’s in Brunei.


PC.

[prelude86]

Re: Meguiars brunei bad reputation

Does that mean that the cars from extreme makeover eg 'miracle buff' and 69 camaro are temporary? And will quickly fade to the oxidized state?

[prelude86]

Re: Meguiars brunei bad reputation

Please block, delete o remove this thread allready

[Tim Lingor]

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Does that mean that the cars from extreme makeover eg 'miracle buff' and 69 camaro are temporary? And will quickly fade to the oxidized state?

No...what I said was:

If your friend's car looked like that hood, it could be the beginning of clear coat failure. Polishing it will restore the gloss temporarily but it will quickly fade back to that state. No product or skill level of the detailer can change that. Once CC failure starts, there is nothing that can be done. All you can do is keep applying a wax to help keep up the appearance the best you can.

Sometimes people have unobtainable expectations from detailers. If the paint is failing, or has been damaged by some type of severe industrial fallout etc, a detailer can bring it back to the best that paint can be, but it will/may not last. I think people sometimes see some of these miracle make-overs and expect that their car should also look like that. Alas, that is not the case as each car's paint is different.

Meaning, that it may return if the paint is beginning to fail or is already failing. Based on the description you gave, it sounds like the paint may be in a state of failure. If so, then no, the results will not last. Or, if the CC has worn through to the base coat, the paint will appear dull and hazed. Polishing will bring back, but in a matter of weeks, it will fade again. Again, the paint is failing...

The key to the above is paint failure. So in the extreme make-overs, if the paint is failing, the fade will return. If it is not, then it will not. Each car's paint is different as I said above.

Tim

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Meguiars brunei bad reputation

There's a huge difference between an oxidized single stage paint and a basecoat/clearcoat finish where the clear coat is failing, that is it's going bad and not just on the surface, but the entire layer of clear paint is going bad and visually this looks like it's turning white, like oxidation but it's not oxidation it's the entire layer going bad.

Clearcoat failure cannot be fixed.

Oxidized single stage paints can be fixed if there's enough paint on the car.

The picture you posted of the finish looks like clear coat failure, NOTHING will fix it but a new paint job.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Meguiars brunei bad reputation

Here's your photo showing clear coat failure





Here's some photos of clear coat failure from this thread...

The Clearcoat Failure Archive


We get so many questions for help from people trying to fix the paint on their car when the problem they're dealing with is un-fixable in that it's what we call Clear Coat Failure.

Many people confuse Clearcoat Failure with Oxidation and while clearcoat failure can be caused by oxidation and part of clearcoat failure can be oxidized clearcoat paint, clearcoat failure and oxidation are different categories of paint problems.


Oxidation is a problem more associated with older single stage paints while clearcoat failure is a problem specific to clearcoat paints. Because we're going on 3 generations of consumers only owning cars with clearcoat finishes and never owning a car with a single stage paint there tends to be some confusion over exactly what the problem looks like so this thread is to document with photos all kinds of examples of clearcoat failure in the 3 different general stages.


Photos of Clearcoat Failure















This is the beginning of clear coat failure, note how the paint is turning cloudy or hazy but it's not yet flaking off.




These 3 pictures show the last stage of clear coat failure, the clear coat has turned white and began to flake off. The car looks like it has a bad rash. This is not oxidation, but the extreme deterioration of the clear layer of paint over the color coat. There is nothing you can do to fix this problem except to repaint the car.








More pictures of clear coat failure...















Just to note... Clear Coat Failure is not a problem --> on <-- the paint, as in on the surface, but it is a deterioration or breakdown of the paint itself. By this we mean the damage is --> in <-- the paint, as in... throughout the matrix of the layer of paint.

This is why you can't apply a topical paint cleaner to clear coat failure and fix the problem.

Does that make sense?

The only honest repair for clearcoat failure is to repaint the affected area or the entire car.