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i am completely car crazy, so all the swirls i have right now are fustrating me.
my problem is the common one...the infamous swirls..arggggg
i have read many posts in many forums. none of them have showed me results, or at least get rid of the swirls.
so i am about to go on a rant about what i do and how i can get help from this forum...bear with me please !
Most of my owned products are meguiars.Here is what i have to my disposal to work with, please guide me to what i do wrong.
I own a SuperBlack Nissan 350Z.
NXT Generation™ Speed Detailer
G12924 NXT GenerationTM Tech Protect
G12824 NXT GenerationTM Spray Wax
G12718 NXT GenerationTM Tech Wax
G12711 NXT GenerationTM Tech Wax Paste
G13324 NXT GenerationTM Glass Cleaner
G13005 NXT Generation™ All Metal Polysh
G10810 Gold Class Trim Detailer
A2116 Deep Crystal System Polish
G1116 Quik Clay Detailing System
Deep Crystal System Paint Cleaner
ScratchX
Quik Wax
Water Magnet Drying Towel
High Tech Applicator Pads
Even-Coat Applicator
Supreme Shine Microfiber cloths(about 10)
Ultra Plush Super Terry(6)
7" random orbital buffer
Zwipes Microfiber cloths (about 50) http://www.zwipes.com/
My detailing session begins with a little meguiars.com motivation tips. Usually because i live in a condo and cant wash my car myself i take it to a hand car wash. Then i go home and start claying the car at the same time using a zwipes microfiber cloth to wipe the residues and lubricantaway off and leave a clean smooth surface.
Another question i have is to how much pressure should i use when applying all pruducts, as well as to how much pressure removing them. maybe too much pressure create more swirls.
Further on, after claying is done, i use scratchx with a Even-Coat Applicator, sometimes i use the buffer too, the amount of product i would use for this would be a 1 quarter size(the actual size of the coin here, not a quarter of a bottle) squirt from the bottle and 3 quarters together high. I rub into the paint finish as if i was washing dishes with a sponge. i spend 10-15 minutes rubbing into the finish of each panel approx. Pressure is applied. Some times wiping off the product it leaves oily finger marks, i have to go over the same spot sometimes because i see from an angle long oil rubs from my fingers of the MC.i get the Same exact results eitherway, hand or buffer. removing of this product is done with MC by meguiars. Sometimes i decide to run a second hand of scratchx because i wasnt satisfied with the first, then the product WILL NOT COME OFF. I have to rub with a great deal of power on the second coat of scratchx, and i am still on my first front section of my car only and a sore shoulder already.Maybei use too much product or too less and thats why the second coat wont come off. i dont know
When finally it is removed(somewhat) i apply Deep Crystal System Polish with a Even-Coat Applicator or the buffer sometimes. Same pressure as above, only this time polish remove with a great EASE....to a point that it is rewarding for the previous scratchx removal procedure. MC by meguiars is used to remove the product again. Normally i wont do a second hand here, i have done in the past though. same amount is used as scratchx.
After polishing, i apply wax. Now i have a great variety of waxes. including the Zaino sereis, mothers, zymol. i prefer meguiars. usually NXTGenerationTM Tech Wax. The easiest for me. I apply it with the pads provided upon purchase or with a Even-Coat Applicator. the use the MC by meguiars to remove wax. i usually let the wax sit for about 30 minutes on each panel before i remove it. then i apply a second coat of wax and let sit for about 15 minutes and remove.
Two days later, i might follow the exact same wax only procedure mentioned above.
the results?
i dont like using scratchx, although i always do with every detail session i have with my car. it never comes off smoothly is my huge complaint. although there are remarkable results done with the scratchx, standing within 5 feet of the vehicle i can see a few swirls still. drives me crazy...sometimes i wonder why all this effort when i know they will probably still be there. the second hand residues that require a great deal of pressure to remove as mentined above is a great turn off though. could this be due maybe to some existing wax residue not removed by claying and washing that now after the first hand of scratchx it rubs it off ?
polishing is a beautiful thing, easy on, easy rub, and comes of very easy, the car now is shining, although it did after scratchx too. but now its REALLY shiny. i like the results, now the shinyness is taking my view off the swirls BUT they are indeed still there visible. maybe a second hand of polish makes it shine more but maybe it me wanting to believe that...i am aware of the term "point of diminishing returns".
Wax is my favorite task, because 2 1/2 hours of work is about to pay off. Indeed it does, my car is the deepest ever i have seen it(i always say that). I can shave right of the reflection. BUT THE SWIRLS ARE STILL THERE. most of them very fine and minute...others perhaps covered and concealed by the wax and polish effects. but they are indeed there, mostly visible now under any flueresent light within 5-6 feet away...
during the week if it gets rained on i will use the speed detailer and a MC to quick mist and wipe-wash the car.
Or if it gets dusty i will use the california duster to dust it.
5-6 days later of everyday driving(2-3 miles a day) i start to see more visible swirls and webs. i might get it hand washed, the go home and apply a wax procedure mentioned above, which will improve the webs and some swirls...3 weeks later after all this i will redo the ENTIRE clay, scratchx...etc....these cobwebs and swirls created are they actually fine minute scratches on the layering of the wax? or is it actually that wax is compleely removed and the paint finish now is being exposes and un-conceiling the defects and making it worse?
i park indoor during the night and day. only time exposed to outside is when going to work, which then again garage parked.
I live in chicago...rainy and windy.
I possibly might need to do a professional job by rotary buffer, i prefer to avoid this because last time i had this done they burned my paint on the hatch of my car. i had to repaint the entire hatch and spent $800.
i tried to provide as much info as i can in order to get some corections, tips etc as to what to do or am i doing something wrong. i apologize if i jump and scatter all over the place in this post...
any recommondation would be greatly appreciated. am i using the right stuff? do i need more? am i doing too much? is it useless trying any harder? any meguiars workshops in chicagoland area?
thank you
xtos
my problem is the common one...the infamous swirls..arggggg
i have read many posts in many forums. none of them have showed me results, or at least get rid of the swirls.
so i am about to go on a rant about what i do and how i can get help from this forum...bear with me please !
Most of my owned products are meguiars.Here is what i have to my disposal to work with, please guide me to what i do wrong.
I own a SuperBlack Nissan 350Z.
NXT Generation™ Speed Detailer
G12924 NXT GenerationTM Tech Protect
G12824 NXT GenerationTM Spray Wax
G12718 NXT GenerationTM Tech Wax
G12711 NXT GenerationTM Tech Wax Paste
G13324 NXT GenerationTM Glass Cleaner
G13005 NXT Generation™ All Metal Polysh
G10810 Gold Class Trim Detailer
A2116 Deep Crystal System Polish
G1116 Quik Clay Detailing System
Deep Crystal System Paint Cleaner
ScratchX
Quik Wax
Water Magnet Drying Towel
High Tech Applicator Pads
Even-Coat Applicator
Supreme Shine Microfiber cloths(about 10)
Ultra Plush Super Terry(6)
7" random orbital buffer
Zwipes Microfiber cloths (about 50) http://www.zwipes.com/
My detailing session begins with a little meguiars.com motivation tips. Usually because i live in a condo and cant wash my car myself i take it to a hand car wash. Then i go home and start claying the car at the same time using a zwipes microfiber cloth to wipe the residues and lubricantaway off and leave a clean smooth surface.
Another question i have is to how much pressure should i use when applying all pruducts, as well as to how much pressure removing them. maybe too much pressure create more swirls.
Further on, after claying is done, i use scratchx with a Even-Coat Applicator, sometimes i use the buffer too, the amount of product i would use for this would be a 1 quarter size(the actual size of the coin here, not a quarter of a bottle) squirt from the bottle and 3 quarters together high. I rub into the paint finish as if i was washing dishes with a sponge. i spend 10-15 minutes rubbing into the finish of each panel approx. Pressure is applied. Some times wiping off the product it leaves oily finger marks, i have to go over the same spot sometimes because i see from an angle long oil rubs from my fingers of the MC.i get the Same exact results eitherway, hand or buffer. removing of this product is done with MC by meguiars. Sometimes i decide to run a second hand of scratchx because i wasnt satisfied with the first, then the product WILL NOT COME OFF. I have to rub with a great deal of power on the second coat of scratchx, and i am still on my first front section of my car only and a sore shoulder already.Maybei use too much product or too less and thats why the second coat wont come off. i dont know
When finally it is removed(somewhat) i apply Deep Crystal System Polish with a Even-Coat Applicator or the buffer sometimes. Same pressure as above, only this time polish remove with a great EASE....to a point that it is rewarding for the previous scratchx removal procedure. MC by meguiars is used to remove the product again. Normally i wont do a second hand here, i have done in the past though. same amount is used as scratchx.
After polishing, i apply wax. Now i have a great variety of waxes. including the Zaino sereis, mothers, zymol. i prefer meguiars. usually NXTGenerationTM Tech Wax. The easiest for me. I apply it with the pads provided upon purchase or with a Even-Coat Applicator. the use the MC by meguiars to remove wax. i usually let the wax sit for about 30 minutes on each panel before i remove it. then i apply a second coat of wax and let sit for about 15 minutes and remove.
Two days later, i might follow the exact same wax only procedure mentioned above.
the results?
i dont like using scratchx, although i always do with every detail session i have with my car. it never comes off smoothly is my huge complaint. although there are remarkable results done with the scratchx, standing within 5 feet of the vehicle i can see a few swirls still. drives me crazy...sometimes i wonder why all this effort when i know they will probably still be there. the second hand residues that require a great deal of pressure to remove as mentined above is a great turn off though. could this be due maybe to some existing wax residue not removed by claying and washing that now after the first hand of scratchx it rubs it off ?
polishing is a beautiful thing, easy on, easy rub, and comes of very easy, the car now is shining, although it did after scratchx too. but now its REALLY shiny. i like the results, now the shinyness is taking my view off the swirls BUT they are indeed still there visible. maybe a second hand of polish makes it shine more but maybe it me wanting to believe that...i am aware of the term "point of diminishing returns".
Wax is my favorite task, because 2 1/2 hours of work is about to pay off. Indeed it does, my car is the deepest ever i have seen it(i always say that). I can shave right of the reflection. BUT THE SWIRLS ARE STILL THERE. most of them very fine and minute...others perhaps covered and concealed by the wax and polish effects. but they are indeed there, mostly visible now under any flueresent light within 5-6 feet away...
during the week if it gets rained on i will use the speed detailer and a MC to quick mist and wipe-wash the car.
Or if it gets dusty i will use the california duster to dust it.
5-6 days later of everyday driving(2-3 miles a day) i start to see more visible swirls and webs. i might get it hand washed, the go home and apply a wax procedure mentioned above, which will improve the webs and some swirls...3 weeks later after all this i will redo the ENTIRE clay, scratchx...etc....these cobwebs and swirls created are they actually fine minute scratches on the layering of the wax? or is it actually that wax is compleely removed and the paint finish now is being exposes and un-conceiling the defects and making it worse?
i park indoor during the night and day. only time exposed to outside is when going to work, which then again garage parked.
I live in chicago...rainy and windy.
I possibly might need to do a professional job by rotary buffer, i prefer to avoid this because last time i had this done they burned my paint on the hatch of my car. i had to repaint the entire hatch and spent $800.
i tried to provide as much info as i can in order to get some corections, tips etc as to what to do or am i doing something wrong. i apologize if i jump and scatter all over the place in this post...
any recommondation would be greatly appreciated. am i using the right stuff? do i need more? am i doing too much? is it useless trying any harder? any meguiars workshops in chicagoland area?
thank you
xtos
Polishing Paint removes the stress in my life, and the swirls on my car. 
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