****** Car Wax

[Jbirk]

Hi,

I recently bought some DuPont ****** Car Wax.

It doesn't seem to be much different than any other wax. I don't really expect it to be.

Anyway, I am just currious is the ****** thing just a marketing ploy? or is there some good properties to this wax?

Is it just Carnuba Liquid wax with a little bit of ****** added to it?

I mean if nothing sticks to ****** how can ****** stick to the car? It does feel waxed, so I guess it worked, but if there really is something to the ****** wax wouldn't it just not stick as well to the car too?


BTW, my favorite wax is actually the Meguiar's NXT Tech Wax Spray. It goes on and off a little bit easier and its synthetic properties obviously offer greater protection and duration than the carnuba based products.

I am still currious about the DuPont ****** wax though.

[Superior Shine]

I recently bought some DuPont ****** Car Wax. -----
BTW, my favorite wax is actually the Meguiar's NXT Tech Wax Spray

Where is the loyalty!?!?!?!?

About 10 years ago DuPont put out a press release that stated the addition of ****** to wax does nothing to increase shine or durability.

It appears they flipped on us.

[Murr1525]

I like their tire product... but other than that, Meguiars Nxt tech wax and #21 are the best looking and best lasting waxes for the money in my opinion. And Gold Class isnt far behind in durability, and looks.

[Jbirk]

Loyalty?

I use whatever works. Anyway, I much prefer the NXT Tech Wax Spray. It is a superb product that beats all other waxes I have tried hands down.

The DuPont wax is carnuba which makes it less protecting than than the Polymer based waxes. As for the DuPont wax, I already had a bottle, so I didn't buy a bottle of Meguiar's.

Later, I bought NXT Tech Wax Spray and must say I like it better than any other wax including the Meguiar's Gold Class Wax.

IMO, a carnuba wax is a carnuba wax. Most of the manufacturers are selling nearly identical products. Obviously Gold Class has a very good mixture of Petroleum Distillates, proprietary additives, essential oils, and probably uses only the best #1 Brazillian Carnuba. I am sure there are comporable products to the Gold Class, but they would be hard to find as some manufacturers will cut corners and use cheaper inferrior ingrediants.

As for the Nxt Tech Wax, I feel it beats any carnuba wax! I waxed my alloy wheels, got a break job afterwords and let the breaks break in. After 2 weeks, there was break dust and road grime. nice thing is it came of with just water! no scrubbing. Nxt Tech Wax prevented break dust from sticking to the alloy. It also pretected my paint. I washed and waxed one car with it and just washed another.

The car I washed is dirty the car I washed and waxed is nearly clean!

[gb387]

Re: ****** Car Wax

Originally posted by Jbirk
Hi,

I recently bought some DuPont ****** Car Wax.

It doesn't seem to be much different than any other wax. I don't really expect it to be.

Anyway, I am just currious is the ****** thing just a marketing ploy? or is there some good properties to this wax?

Is it just Carnuba Liquid wax with a little bit of ****** added to it?

I mean if nothing sticks to ****** how can ****** stick to the car? It does feel waxed, so I guess it worked, but if there really is something to the ****** wax wouldn't it just not stick as well to the car too?


BTW, my favorite wax is actually the Meguiar's NXT Tech Wax Spray. It goes on and off a little bit easier and its synthetic properties obviously offer greater protection and duration than the carnuba based products.

I am still currious about the DuPont ****** wax though.

I can't find the article now but a few months back I did read that the ****** did very littlle to enhance the shine or add protection to the vehicle. Dupont does not make the wax their name is just used on it.

[jfelbab]

Teflon® is useless in auto wax products. Not just my opinion but that of Dupont's chemists as well.

The addition of a Teflon® fluoropolymer does nothing to enhance the properties of any car wax, we have no data that indicates the use of Teflon® to be beneficial in car waxes.

Teflon® requires a temperature of 680°F for it to bond to a surface. Heating your paint to 680°F would vaporize it.

This is just another slick marketing scheme to separate you from your money.

After a little searching on Goggle I found another reason not to use Teflon® products.

A chemical used in the manufacture of ****** products, perfluorooctanoic acid (PFOA), sometimes called "C8", is a carcinogen. Dupont, the sole manufacturer, has withheld health information for 20 years according to the EPA. Dupont is facing fines in the order of $300M for failure to report this health info.

http://www.health-report.co.uk/tefl...ot_reported.htm

http://www.ewg.org/reports/pfcworld/part7.php

http://www.epa.gov/opptintr/pfoa/

http://www.newsandsentinel.com/c8/

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050809/cltu048.html?.v=16

Maybe you should wear rubber gloves and a respirator when using that stuff.

Seems funny that the EPA and the CCAB are forcing some wax products from the market because of VOC's and yet they allow this stuff to be sold.

[Jbirk]

Well those chemicals are produced when the product is made. I doubt they are in the product.

Besides, ****** is inside of pans that we eat off of though it is bonded.

As for the wax, I don't consider it too dangerous as I have plenty of ventillation (can't even smell it) and I wash my hands afterwords.

Besides, if I ate any of it, it wouldn't be the carnuba or the ****** that would give me any problems. Carnuba is in Tic-Tacs, and both the wax and the ****** would just go right through without really affecting the health. The petrolleum distillates would probably be what would kill me or cause cancer.

Obviously, the waxes are toxic due to the other chemicals, so I am not ging to eat any of it.

I feel that putting wax on in a well ventillated area and washing my hands when done should be plenty to protect me from the health hazards of wax. I am pretty sure something else will kill before wax.

However, I am not going to ever buy DuPont ****** wax again.

I am sticking with Meguiar's Nxt Tech Wax Liquid and Even Coat Appicator and Nxt Tech Wax Spray for maintainence between waxings.

I find the Nxt Tech Waxes to be the top notch product offered on the market. I cannot think of anything better.

-Jbirk

[Superior Shine]

Originally posted by Jbirk
However, I am not going to ever buy DuPont ****** wax again.

I am sticking with Meguiar's Nxt Tech Wax Liquid and Even Coat Appicator and Nxt Tech Wax Spray for maintainence between waxings.

I find the Nxt Tech Waxes to be the top notch product offered on the market. I cannot think of anything better.

-Jbirk

NICE SAVE!!

[jfelbab]

Originally posted by Jbirk
Well those chemicals are produced when the product is made. I doubt they are in the product.

Besides, ****** is inside of pans that we eat off of though it is bonded.

As for the wax, I don't consider it too dangerous as I have plenty of ventillation (can't even smell it) and I wash my hands afterwords.

Besides, if I ate any of it, it wouldn't be the carnuba or the ****** that would give me any problems. Carnuba is in Tic-Tacs, and both the wax and the ****** would just go right through without really affecting the health. The petrolleum distillates would probably be what would kill me or cause cancer.

Obviously, the waxes are toxic due to the other chemicals, so I am not ging to eat any of it.

I feel that putting wax on in a well ventillated area and washing my hands when done should be plenty to protect me from the health hazards of wax. I am pretty sure something else will kill before wax...

You must have missed my .

Interesting though that you mention how we all use it in our pots and pans. Maybe that's how PFOA has gotten into the blood of 90% of Americans according to one of the linked articles. Did you catch that article about how cooking with ****** coated pans kills pet birds. Sort of reminds me of the early miners taking canaries into mines to see if the air was safe for humans. If the canaries died it wasn't safe. Now my kitchen isn't safe.

Cooking with ****** can kill birds and the EPA doesn't seem to take notice. I've not heard of any birds dying from exposure to wax fumes yet the EPA deems this more dangerous.

Just in case you missed my in my previous message, here are a few more

[refurbish]

I bought a bottle of some stuff a long time ago that said
"******" on it,( meaning ****** is a registered trademark of dupont ) ( just to try ) it also says "contains no wax"

It made the paint really glossy looking,the bottle also says
cross-link bonded polymer protectant-sealant-polish.

also can be used in the home on all non porous surfaces

I'm a little knowledgeable on the ****** hype jazz
but do you think this stuff is bad news to use ?

I really like the way it was easy to apply and remove,and also
resist water ( low pressure or even full force with a garden hose )
it would literaly bounce off. ( leaving micro beads of water if that)

I currently use Meguiars on everything but would like to know
about the bottle of stuff.