cool white jetta, need help

[orionz06]

i recentlt acquired a prtty cool car, 01 wolfsburg jetta...
heres the deal, it has some bad spiderwebs....no scratches, just looks like someone didnt know how to wash.....

heres what i did,

wash w/ deep crystal
qd and clay
mf wipe
cleaner/polish wax
nxt paste


there are still some swirls but not as bad...what should i do....im debating on reclaying the car and sarting from step one....but unsure.....i hear the nxt is a pain to remove.....i am not opposed to another long day of detailing though, ill post pics soon, it does look nice, except for mainly the doors.....bah...seems like 4 hours wasted....

[Teak]

Are you working by hand or machine?
Do you have any pictures of the spider webbing?
What other products do you have?

As to NXT being tough to remove, I have not had this problem.

Eric

[orionz06]

well

update on what i did

wash-deep crystal and bug sponge
diaper cloth next
mf towel to finish
clay- megs qd and clay
cleaner- dc1 paint cleaner- applied w/buffer, removed w/buffer
wash- nxt paste

i used a craftsman random orbit 10" buffer.....not what most of you guys use, but it serves its purpose.....

the spider webbing is greatly reduced, but i would like to get it all....and if that means redoing it all and spending a hundred bucks on stuff, its all good, cuz its not a waste if it s meguiars...

[LnkPrkSoldier]

the craftsman random orbit 10" buffer is not something that really works.. its too big , clunky, slow , and in the end, doesn't end up getting in the paint. you will need a rotary buffer or a porter cable such as meguiars g100a. the g100a will be something easier to use, less heavy, and in my opinion better ( i use a rotary ) once and if you get that, you should use some #80 speed glaze and apply it without using much force on the g100 and after the second pass, the swirls will most likely be gone

[rusty bumper]

Try #80 with your orbital....You'll have to make a few passes with it, but #80 should make for some improvements.

the spider webbing is greatly reduced, but i would like to get it all....and if that means redoing it all and spending a hundred bucks on stuff, its all good, cuz its not a waste if it s meguiars...

If your willing to spend that much, then the G100 would be the tool of choice for #80, and it also opens up more options for more products to try........Not to mention the great looking finish you can create with the G100.

[Teak]

Originally posted by orionz06
well

update on what i did

wash-deep crystal and bug sponge
diaper cloth next
mf towel to finish
clay- megs qd and clay
cleaner- dc1 paint cleaner- applied w/buffer, removed w/buffer
wash- nxt paste

i used a craftsman random orbit 10" buffer.....not what most of you guys use, but it serves its purpose.....

the spider webbing is greatly reduced, but i would like to get it all....and if that means redoing it all and spending a hundred bucks on stuff, its all good, cuz its not a waste if it s meguiars...

A critique of your process.
Wash
I would use a wool mitt as opposed to the sponge. When purchasing a wool mitt look for the softest available by feeling for the softest.

Clay:
If the surface is smooth feeling, than skip this step.

Cleaner:
Use DC1 by hand with foam applicator. The bonnet for the 10" buffer my be the cause of the spider webbing. Remove residue with a MF towel.

Scratch removal:
Use Scratch X by hand with a foam applicator and remove residue with a MF towel.

Polish:
DC step 2 or #7 by hand with a foam applicator and remove residue with a 100% cotton towel. The Ultra Plush super terry towel is a good choice.

Wax
NXT and remove residue with a MF towel.

These products are available from Meguiar's website or from Pepboys or other auto parts stores.

Before making a big investment try the above OTC products.

Eric

[rusty bumper]

Use DC1 by hand with foam applicator. The bonnet for the 10" buffer my be the cause of the spider webbing. Remove residue with a MF towel.

Not a bad idea, but if you can find one then a stretch foam bonnet for your buffer should work ok.

Meguiar's has this item in their new magazine that was just recently issued.......(X4008)

And they also have a microfiber bonnet for 10" buffers.....(X4009)

[Teak]

Originally posted by Rusty Bumper
Not a bad idea, but if you can find one then a stretch foam bonnet for your buffer should work ok.

Meguiar's has this item in their new magazine that was just recently issued.......(X4008)

And they also have a microfiber bonnet for 10" buffers.....(X4009)

I did not know Meguiars made products for store bought orbitals, but this seems logical.

Eric

[rusty bumper]

I've used stretch over foam bonnets before and I liked them ok for what they are.

I used to do everthing by hand, until a friend bought a 9" orbital for me as a gift for detailing his van. I thought it was junk until I tried it for the 1st time.......I was able to work in the product a little better, and I was able to see results that I'd never seen before by hand alone.

Until I was introduced to Mr. G100.

[orionz06]

well....that 90 day guarantee will be taken advantage of as i return the craftsman and buy the g100....why horse around when i can do it right....plus, after people seeing my car today, they want to pay me to do theirs.....and i think mine needs improvement....

perhaps a little more suggestion?

maybe wash
wool and mf
clay if needed
dc1 paint cleaner
dc2 polish
wax
wait a day wax

should i toss scratch x or #80 in there?

and what would be a good started kit to get? by kti i mean bunch of stuff to buy?

[JeffM]

A kit, oh man, i have been trying to use up some of my megs stuff so i can order one of those huge kits.

Here, Fed-Ex is Santa Clause lol.

[rusty bumper]

Originally posted by orionz06
should i toss scratch x or #80 in there?

and what would be a good started kit to get? by kti i mean bunch of stuff to buy?

Meguiars has a variety of kits that are available with the G100.

Call 1-800-347-5700 and ask them to fix you up with a kit that includes #80, and ScratchX too if possible........I can't guarantee that these products will be added as part of a kit, but I would buy them anyway.........Especially #80.

They also sell a pad kit WDAV99B for about $25.00 that you will need too, and make sure that you get a velcro backing plate for your G100.....(The backing plate may be part of the kit, but I'm not sure of this)

[orionz06]

i have scratch x, and dc1, dc2, clay and qd, nxt paste, nxt liquid, using up armor all, using up other window stuff, and i need to score a bunch of mf....anything else

gotta get #80, g100

what pads?

and how many

[g15389]

orionz06,

Make sure you get the W-DAV99 Dual Action Velcro Buffing System (not sure if you get these in the kit you were talking about ordering - if not it will definately come in handy). This includes two Buffing pads (W-8006) and one Polishing pad (W-9006) as well as backing plate with velcro so it makes switching pads a breeze.

You will want to make sure that you keep a dedicated pad for each product that you are going to be using (i.e. 1 pad for #80, 1 pad for NXT, etc.) A great suggestion from the forum is to write the product name on the back of the pad with a black sharpie so you don't get them mixed up.

Here is a great article by Mike Phillips on some basics (I won't even try to paraphrase). He details out the process and it is definately worth the read.

http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5907&highlight=80

If you still have some questions after reading the article feel free to ask away.

G-

[orionz06]

so maybe a burgundy pad or yellow for like an 80 or speed glaze, and a beige for the wax...?