Advice needed on waxes

[tomsteve]

Re: Advice needed on waxes

what murr said.
you can use the claybar on the glass,too.

[Murr1525]

Re: Advice needed on waxes

In this scenario, which one comes first?

Claybar > iron decon
Iron decon > claybar?

If the car isn't super dirty, I usually decon, wash, clay.

[BrutusGuy]

Re: Advice needed on waxes

ya might want to put a step in there for using a claybar

In this scenario, which one comes first?

Claybar > iron decon
Iron decon > claybar?

[tomsteve]

Re: Advice needed on waxes

ya might want to put a step in there for using a claybar

[BrutusGuy]

Re: Advice needed on waxes

I really wouldnt want to tackle swirls or deep water spots with any of the cleaner/wax products by hand.

Even a compound by hand will **** in most cases...

But esp if you are starting out detailing, probably best to focus on a good shine and practice with the products at first.

I think you got the rest figured out with the waxes...

Yeah, I figured much. But I don't wanna spend anymore on any other car care products as of now
Plus, I'm just starting out.. gotta get comfortable wth the hand application first

Perhaps next I do the DA route

[Murr1525]

Re: Advice needed on waxes

I really wouldnt want to tackle swirls or deep water spots with any of the cleaner/wax products by hand.

Even a compound by hand will **** in most cases...

But esp if you are starting out detailing, probably best to focus on a good shine and practice with the products at first.

I think you got the rest figured out with the waxes...

[BrutusGuy]

Re: Advice needed on waxes

Old bear, you have been most helpful, thanks alot!

[Old Bear]

Re: Advice needed on waxes

This video might help categorize your steps.
The 5 - Step Paint Care Cycle

Although the video has some age on it and there are newer products available today, pay attention to the 5 Steps.
Then categorize your new products into one or more of the 5 steps.

If you think of Protection, instead of "waxing", that may help reduce any confusion.

Of the 5 Steps
1 Washing
2 Cleaning Prepping
3 Pure Polishing
4 Protecting
5 Maintenance

If we think about it,
* 3-In-1 Wax is helping in steps 2 Cleaning/Prepping, 3 Pure Polishing, 4 Protecting
* Ultimate Liquid Wax is helping in step 4 Protecting
* Hybrid Ceramic wax is helping in step 4 Protecting

You don't have to perform all 5 steps each time.
If you do a full detail, you may do steps 1 thru 4.
Step 5, Maintenance will likely occur as the most frequent step.

I hope this is helpful.

[Old Bear]

Re: Advice needed on waxes

Ultimate Fast Finish is not required.

The video clearly shows a major benefit of the UFF product, when used as the top most finish.
I don't normally use a wax or sealant except what is in the waterless washes.
Then UFF goes over that.

Ultimate Liquid Wax is a truly great product, It is a synthetic polymer sealant rather than a wax.

I can't discuss HCW. It does not fit my personal criteria. It spreads by water.

Others will chime in.

Here are some other things to check, especially in the product instructions.
* Is the product you are using safe to use when the car/wheel is warm/hot or in the sun?
* Will the product stain plastic/rubber? Should you mask off those items?
* Will it cause glare if used on your windows?
* Most of these are applied much thinner than products from 20 years ago, so this helps residue removal.

Just for Halloween fun. Mess with your brain. I am not sure you have any true "wax" products in your image.
Don't count on the word being in the title. They may be sealants.
Others might find one with older carnauba.

[BrutusGuy]

Re: Advice needed on waxes

This Window and Wheels Detailing review video.



Product Review - Meguiars Ultimate Fast Finish - Looks, Water Beading and Dust Resistancehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI9QRx9MNCc

Yes, I too have found on my truck that when I go to car shows, that UFF does not attract dust like other products do.

Now....... My thoughts will be foreign to you. Why? On my two garaged cars, I never use "rust juice on my paint" (AKA water).
I use Ultimate Waterless Wash and Wax or D115) and then put UFF on after each panel is cleaned.
Personally, I don't count on 1 year or 6 month UFF longevity and the cars are always garaged.

Wait, I'm Abit confused here now regarding waxes and uff?

So my take on waxing my car will be

1) 3 in 1
2) ulw
3) hcw

Where does fast finish fit in, and is it needed to begin with?

[BrutusGuy]

Re: Advice needed on waxes

Here is the introduction thread for "3-IN-1 Wax".

https://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?67025-Meguiar-s-3-in-1-Wax

Note from post #81

Originally Posted by imacarnut
Is this going to be a suitable replacement for Black wax? Is Black wax discontinued (or going to be) as well?



Answer Nick Winn: Yes absolutely a much more premium replacement & yes Meguiar's G6207 Black Wax is being phased out.

This closes the deal!

Thanks man!

Ok now I got a spare unused black wax .... Hmmm

[Old Bear]

Re: Advice needed on waxes

Some of the waxes might give a little more gloss.
Here is an image that will provide an idea of what Ultimate Fast Finish looks like as the final finish.
If I use another product over UFF...... Dust sticks based on the top finish.

[Old Bear]

Re: Advice needed on waxes

This Window and Wheels Detailing review video.



Product Review - Meguiars Ultimate Fast Finish - Looks, Water Beading and Dust Resistancehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI9QRx9MNCc

Yes, I too have found on my truck that when I go to car shows, that UFF does not attract dust like other products do.

Now....... My thoughts will be foreign to you. Why? On my two garaged cars, I never use "rust juice on my paint" (AKA water).
I use Ultimate Waterless Wash and Wax or D115) and then put UFF on after each panel is cleaned.
Personally, I don't count on 1 year or 6 month UFF longevity and the cars are always garaged.

[Old Bear]

Re: Advice needed on waxes

Here is a link to Nicolas Winn's Introduction to Using Ultimate Fast Finish:

https://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?65527-Using-Meguiar-s-Ultimate-Fast-Finish&highlight=ultimate+fast+finish+new

[Old Bear]

Re: Advice needed on waxes

Here is the introduction thread for "3-IN-1 Wax".

https://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?67025-Meguiar-s-3-in-1-Wax

Note from post #81

Originally Posted by imacarnut
Is this going to be a suitable replacement for Black wax? Is Black wax discontinued (or going to be) as well?



Answer Nick Winn: Yes absolutely a much more premium replacement & yes Meguiar's G6207 Black Wax is being phased out.