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Originally posted by Michael Stoops View PostFor someone who is JUST an enthusiast, and enthusiastic about this product, it is rather interesting that you choose to come on a competitors website and push soooo hard for this particular product. We've done probably as much, if not more, testing of ceramic and glass coatings than anyone - world wide, I might add - and there is no doubt that the product you're pushing so heavily is indeed good stuff. Even so, such coatings are not for everyone. There are those who still enjoy the simple act of polishing and waxing their cars, and many prefer the look of a properly prepared car and take great satisfaction in having done the work themselves. I recently sold a 13 year old car with over 100,000 miles on it, and when the buyer took it to a mechanic to have it looked over the mechanic asked how it was possible for a car of that age with that many miles on it too look so good. People had asked me, just before I sold it, where I had gotten it repainted. Just polishing and waxing regularly, that was it. And you know what? I actually enjoyed every minute of it.
So if some of our forum members are stating that they would prefer to maintain their vehicles in the manner in which they are accustomed, and take the therapeutic benefits that often go with that maintenance, why push so hard to convince them of a product that you, supposedly, have no financial gain in promoting? Let it go. Besides, it's starting to sound very much like you're actually acting as a rep for the company, which violates our forum rules. I don't really believe that you are, truth be told, but you really need to back off and let folks choose their own method of taking care of their cars. Especially when the act of caring for the car is, in and of itself, a big part of the joy of car ownership for these folks.
Originally posted by Michael Stoops View PostFor someone who is JUST an enthusiast, and enthusiastic about this product, it is rather interesting that you choose to come on a competitors website and push soooo hard for this particular product. We've done probably as much, if not more, testing of ceramic and glass coatings than anyone - world wide, I might add - and there is no doubt that the product you're pushing so heavily is indeed good stuff. Even so, such coatings are not for everyone. There are those who still enjoy the simple act of polishing and waxing their cars, and many prefer the look of a properly prepared car and take great satisfaction in having done the work themselves. I recently sold a 13 year old car with over 100,000 miles on it, and when the buyer took it to a mechanic to have it looked over the mechanic asked how it was possible for a car of that age with that many miles on it too look so good. People had asked me, just before I sold it, where I had gotten it repainted. Just polishing and waxing regularly, that was it. And you know what? I actually enjoyed every minute of it
So if some of our forum members are stating that they would prefer to maintain their vehicles in the manner in which they are accustomed, and take the therapeutic benefits that often go with that maintenance, why push so hard to convince them of a product that you, supposedly, have no financial gain in promoting? Let it go. Besides, it's starting to sound very much like you're actually acting as a rep for the company, which violates our forum rules. I don't really believe that you are, truth be told, but you really need to back off and let folks choose their own method of taking care of their cars. Especially when the act of caring for the car is, in and of itself, a big part of the joy of car ownership for these folks.
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Originally posted by 335d View Postfrom light scratches as i had a crazy chicken try to get on my bonnet , a quick buff scratches gone
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For someone who is JUST an enthusiast, and enthusiastic about this product, it is rather interesting that you choose to come on a competitors website and push soooo hard for this particular product. We've done probably as much, if not more, testing of ceramic and glass coatings than anyone - world wide, I might add - and there is no doubt that the product you're pushing so heavily is indeed good stuff. Even so, such coatings are not for everyone. There are those who still enjoy the simple act of polishing and waxing their cars, and many prefer the look of a properly prepared car and take great satisfaction in having done the work themselves. I recently sold a 13 year old car with over 100,000 miles on it, and when the buyer took it to a mechanic to have it looked over the mechanic asked how it was possible for a car of that age with that many miles on it too look so good. People had asked me, just before I sold it, where I had gotten it repainted. Just polishing and waxing regularly, that was it. And you know what? I actually enjoyed every minute of it.
So if some of our forum members are stating that they would prefer to maintain their vehicles in the manner in which they are accustomed, and take the therapeutic benefits that often go with that maintenance, why push so hard to convince them of a product that you, supposedly, have no financial gain in promoting? Let it go. Besides, it's starting to sound very much like you're actually acting as a rep for the company, which violates our forum rules. I don't really believe that you are, truth be told, but you really need to back off and let folks choose their own method of taking care of their cars. Especially when the act of caring for the car is, in and of itself, a big part of the joy of car ownership for these folks.
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Originally posted by twisty roads View Postlets quantify "beats hands down"
ceramic coating vs wax:
UV protection: equal
durability: coatings
cost: wax
time effort: depends on classifying as up front (wax) or life of car (coating)
scratch/micro marring protection: coating BUT a good wash protocol/technique would make this point null
appearance: coating...but subjective if you want a mirror/glass like reflection or a warm deep reflection
I understand the cost if your paint is trashed and needs a full correction. I would never spend $1K+ on a coating...$100-$150 sure. One thing I have never seen is a up close look (paint thickness gauge or paint condition cameras) to see if there is a difference between a coated surface vs a wax/sealant surface. There was a UK company performing a 20 spot durability test on YouTube including ceramic pro 5h, 6h, 9h, (iirc) and other coatings like Megs PP365 and CarPro Essence. He was suppose to update every month but his last update was 60-days after initial application.
I strongly believe that if you stay on top of applying your wax and washing correctly that ceramic coatings offer nothing to the table that proper techniques offer. However, if you don't want to wash your car every week or want to wait 1-5 years in between time efforts to protect your car, then there are some advantages that a coating will offer.
if you saw how i wash my car and have done over 150 times you would dye .. i use one bucket with maybe 5 inch of water/soap with lambs wool mit going in the bucket 4 times to wash the hole carmaring is there but its next to nothing
you are right about the appearance , i have a bmw everyone knows the paint is shocking so i sanded it first , then buffed with only one pad and one compound to a glass finish after i coated in ceramic pro the deep shine like nail polish i guess i was super happy but its not for everyone
One thing I have never seen is a up close look (paint thickness gauge or paint condition cameras) to see if there is a difference between a coated
it 100% protects the paint from light scratches as i had a crazy chicken try to get on my bonnet , a quick buff scratches gone
There was a UK company performing a 20 spot durability test on YouTube including ceramic pro 5h, 6h, 9h, (iirc) and other coatings like Megs PP365 and CarPro Essence. He was suppose to update every month but his last update was 60-days after initial application.
i am that sad i tried them all over the last 4 years . my opinion is ceramic pro if funds allow
I strongly believe that if you stay on top of applying your wax and washing correctly that ceramic coatings offer nothing to the table that proper techniques offer. However, if you don't want to wash your car every week or want to wait 1-5 years in between time efforts to protect your car, then there are some advantages that a coating will offer.[/QUOTE]
things i like with ceramic over wax , that i can wash it in 30 mins and looks just as good the day i applied it , not really having to mess about with other products to clean the burnt in brake dust waiting ages for the dried in flys to come off , driving in the rain without having to use my wipers even 10 foot away from a wagon with all the spray i can still see perfect I think you need to try it i am sure you will change your mind https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPzU...ature=youtu.be
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Originally posted by 335d View PostPlease tell all me why you think that wax is better because I can't find anything better then ceramic , even the **** brands beat wax hands down
ceramic coating vs wax:
UV protection: equal
durability: coatings
cost: wax
time effort: depends on classifying as up front (wax) or life of car (coating)
scratch/micro marring protection: coating BUT a good wash protocol/technique would make this point null
appearance: coating...but subjective if you want a mirror/glass like reflection or a warm deep reflection
I understand the cost if your paint is trashed and needs a full correction. I would never spend $1K+ on a coating...$100-$150 sure. One thing I have never seen is a up close look (paint thickness gauge or paint condition cameras) to see if there is a difference between a coated surface vs a wax/sealant surface. There was a UK company performing a 20 spot durability test on YouTube including ceramic pro 5h, 6h, 9h, (iirc) and other coatings like Megs PP365 and CarPro Essence. He was suppose to update every month but his last update was 60-days after initial application.
I strongly believe that if you stay on top of applying your wax and washing correctly that ceramic coatings offer nothing to the table that proper techniques offer. However, if you don't want to wash your car every week or want to wait 1-5 years in between time efforts to protect your car, then there are some advantages that a coating will offer.
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I promise I am nothing to do with ceramic pro . I am just a geek who loves his black car looking it's best . I am gobsmacked ceramic pro has lasted ,the money now seams cheap
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My car costed nearly 1400 dollarI would say no to ceramic mainly because i dont need it
It kinda feels like you're a seller ceramic proThe Ultimate series gives me what i need
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Originally posted by snozan View PostI still believe the best coating is whats already on: Clear coat, polish that and it will out preform anything
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I still believe the best coating is whats already on: Clear coat, polish that and it will out preform anything
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Can I post YouTube videos on here if so i can show u how good it is on the glass 8 months later , the other coatings lasted days but I did use ceramic pro glass then 9h then light
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Originally posted by mis3 View PostFound it. And it is quite expensive, something like $1,700US. Below is extracted from a FAQ section of Ceramic pro site.
"No, Ceramic Pro can only be offered and applied by Nanoshine Group authorized dealers. If you’re concerned that the shop you’re working with may not be an authorized installer, we recommend checking the distributer’s website for a current list of approved operations."
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Originally posted by mis3 View PostIs this a DIY product or should be installled by a professional?
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