New to the forum so thought this would be the place to ask maybe a dumb question. I have a torch red 2004 Mach 1 mustang. I have been using the meguiars clay kit and meguiars cleaner wax in the red bottle for a while now. I am ready to try some better products to keep my car show Quality and keep it looking the best I can. I'm assuming the #6 cleaner wax is better then the regular cleaner wax is this the case? Also seeing that the cleaner wax in the red bottle has been my all in one kinda deal would the #6 be a lot better product to use together? I have been using a porter cable da buffer with meguiar pads. Just looking for some feed back and wondering if these 2 products mentioned above will do all I need. Thanks in advance and sorry if this is a dumb question or has been covered.
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Re: Meguiars #6 & # 26
Have you considered moving towards a dedicated polish to get more gloss and correction over a cleaner wax? Then follow up with the protection of your choice.
If your Mustang is a daily driver perhaps consider something longer lasting like NXT, ultimate wax, M21 (pro version of NXT) or paint protect 365. You can essentially top either product with M26. In theory you get the best of both worlds in the longevity of a paint sealant and the look of a carnauba. If you go this route allow about 12 hours before topping a sealant.
I'm going off memory here but I believe M6 and A12 (maroon bottle) are closely related. If you decide to stick with a cleaner wax you may want to give white wax a shot. It has more cleaning power than with of these. There are a few threads on using white wax with a polishing pad or cutting pad to amp up it's correction ability.
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I agree. If you're after a show car finish, you'd be better off using a dedicated polish/compound followed by a sealant/wax.
AIO's (all-in-one's) are a good time saver for daily drivers or for people who don't care too much about getting a show car shine.Originally posted by BluelineI own a silver vehicle and a black vehicle owns me. The black one demands attention, washing, detailing, waxing and an occasional dinner out at a nice restaurant. The silver one demands nothing and it looks just fine. I think the black vehicle is taking advantage of me, and the silver car is more my style. We can go out for a drive without her makeup and she looks fine. If I want to take the black one out, it is three or four hours in the "bathroom" to get ready.
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Originally posted by The Guz View PostHave you considered moving towards a dedicated polish to get more gloss and correction over a cleaner wax? Then follow up with the protection of your choice.
If your Mustang is a daily driver perhaps consider something longer lasting like NXT, ultimate wax, M21 (pro version of NXT) or paint protect 365. You can essentially top either product with M26. In theory you get the best of both worlds in the longevity of a paint sealant and the look of a carnauba. If you go this route allow about 12 hours before topping a sealant.
I'm going off memory here but I believe M6 and A12 (maroon bottle) are closely related. If you decide to stick with a cleaner wax you may want to give white wax a shot. It has more cleaning power than with of these. There are a few threads on using white wax with a polishing pad or cutting pad to amp up it's correction ability.
You could use m20 and then follow up with m26,m21 etc. M20 can last up to 6 months on a car if you want to have at it.
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Car is not a daily driver. Gets driven maybe 2-3 times a month and stays in the garage. I tried posting a picture of it so you guys could see what I am working with but it has to be approved. I normally try to wax the car once every 2 months or so. So is this new paint sealant the way to go over the #26. I just want that deep gloss wet look. Also what you guys are saying in a standard polish will clean and fill better then the # 6 will? Again thanks for all your help. Trying to educate myself as much as I can
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Originally posted by Hpstang View PostCar is not a daily driver. Gets driven maybe 2-3 times a month and stays in the garage. I tried posting a picture of it so you guys could see what I am working with but it has to be approved. I normally try to wax the car once every 2 months or so. So is this new paint sealant the way to go over the #26. I just want that deep gloss wet look. Also what you guys are saying in a standard polish will clean and fill better then the # 6 will? Again thanks for all your help. Trying to educate myself as much as I can
Welcome to Meguiar's Online. We don't see any posts in moderation so feel free to try again and we will approve.
Based on your storage on the vehicle, maintenance frequency, and goals, we would also agree it would be best to look towards dedicated products as opposed to cleaner waxes. Cleaner Waxes are awesome in a lot of situations, but using a dedicated compound if needed, polish, and wax, should take your paint to a new level, especially if you are using a dual action polisher. If you prefer to stay with cleaner waxes, Meguiar's Black Wax is one of our more advanced cleaner waxes awesome for dark colored cars. You could then follow with your favorite carnauba if you'd like. Below are some recommendations for using dedicated products for each step.
After washing, assess if the car has any bonded above surface contaminants, by physically feeling the paint when it is clean and dry. If it is not completely smooth or feels rough, these contaminants can be safely removed with a clay bar like Meguiar's Smooth Surface Clay Kit. You have stated you are familiar with using a clay bar, so based on your storage and how often the car is driven, you likely won't have any bonded contaminants.
From there we can assess and address any below surface defects, such as swirls, scratches, or stains. Any car is going to look decent in the shade, it is when we evaluate the car in direct sunlight or under good lighting that the defects are exposed. This is where good lighting is key when we get into doing "paint correction."
We always recommend starting with the least aggressive approach and performing a test spot. Meguiar's Ultimate Polish on a yellow polishing pad is one of our go to combinations, to determine what we are working with. We can try this combination on a test spot, and from here determine if this is achieving the defect removal we are after. If more correction is needed, a good next step would be Meguiar's Ultimate Compound, on a separate clean yellow foam polishing pad. If only a polish is needed, you can go straight to wax. If a compound is needed, it is best to follow with a polish, and then a wax.
We hope the above information will give you a good start!Nick Winn
Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Online Forum Administrator
Meguiar's Inc.
Irvine, CA
nawinn@meguiars.com
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Ultimate Polish and M205 are examples of a dedicated polish. A polish is meant to refine the finish after compounding. It will remove minor to moderate defects. Of course better results are achieved by machine. A polish will also impart gloss on the paint. Ultimate polish has more polishing oils than M205. Where as M205 has offers more correction. It still has a nice amount of polishing oils. Either product can be picked up locally. UP will fill a little more.
Sealant vs carnauba is up to the end user. Sealants offer longer protection and are more durable. Carnaubas offer shorter longevity but offer a better look. Ultimate wax is on the border. Great look and great protection. NXT and M21 have a more candy coated look. M26 has a high DOI (distinction of image) and has been said to be able to bend light giving great reflections. The prep is what makes the look and not the wax or sealant.
Based on the products you have that combo you posted will work fine.
Are you doing this by machine or by hand?
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Okay guys thanks for all the input I'm learning a lot. So if I get the ULtimate compound and ultimate polish can I then use the #26 as the final step over them? These products would be better then the original products I mentioned earlier and get better results? I just like Carnauba wax as it is what I use to using and I'm comfortable with it.
also I will be using Porter cable dual/action machine with hook and loop pads
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Yes you can. Those dedicated products will give you more correction and gloss versus a cleaner wax. M7 is a pure polish with no correcting ability. It will fill in defects and not remove them.
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If it were me, I'd do Ultimate Polish followed by M26.
M26 is one of the best carnauba based waxes, but remember that it's got boosted durability from it's polymers.
When I last did my gf's truck, I polished with M205, sealed with M20 Polymer Sealant (just as easy to use as any carnauba wax), and topped with M26 paste.
It's maintained with M105 synthetic detailer, which is similar to Ultimate Quick Wax.
Either way, with just about any of the Meguiar's products, you can't go wrong.
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Originally posted by drumdan View PostIt's maintained with M135 synthetic detailer, which is similar to Ultimate Quick Detailer.
D156 = Ultimate Quik Wax
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