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Will claying completely remove any existing LSP like Ultimate Wax? Or would I be better off using some UP on a polishing pad? Thanks.
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Re: Claying to remove LSP?
If your goal was to remove the wax, then the UP would be the more guaranteed way.2017 Subaru WRX Premium - WR BlueComment
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Easiest way is to wash the car with dish soap.Comment
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Re: Claying to remove LSP?
Dish soap wont remove a recently applied and tough LSP IMOComment
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It most definitely will. Doesn't matter if its 2 months old or 2 hours old. If u wash it right and give a real good scrub also use plenty of dish soap, dawn in my opinion since every bottle bought they make a donation to help cleaning of animals in crude oil. They also use dawn to clean the oil off the animals. But it will strip all wax off the car.Comment
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An interesting read on dawn and stripping, demonstrating how the surfactants in dawn can make it appear an lsp has been stripped when it actually hasn't.
Just MO, I wouldn't count on dishwashing liquid to strip the collinite thats currently on my car. But then I again Im not going to be giving my soft dark blue paint a real good scrub anytime soon.Comment
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Interesting article, but IMO I disagree. Through my own experience I've experienced differently. I'm not saying to take a scuff pad to the paint, but it must b washed carefully.Comment
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Re: Claying to remove LSP?
1 - wash car with CGs Clear Citrus Shampoo (2 oz./gal.)
2 - clay
3 - wash car again with same shampoo and dilution ratio as above
4 - after drying, correct any kind of paint blemish (if needed) with abrasive polish using a machine (I use Griot's 6 inch electric with orange pad)
5 - use P21S Paintwork Cleanser, Squeaky Clean, or similar chemical paint cleaner.
Results of above:
Carnauba Wax LSP = gone
Sealant LSP = maybe gone, maybe not.Comment
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Re: Claying to remove LSP?
How recently was the wax/sealant applied to the paint and how has the car been maintained since then? If it's been several months and if that car has been run through an automatic car wash regularly, or if it has been exposed to repeated heavy rain, there most likely isn't a lot of wax left on the surface anyway so clay should easily pull off the remainder. If, on the other hand, you've got a pretty durable polymer that was applied very recently (Ultimate Wax, NXT Tech Wax 2.0 or even Ultimate Quik Wax) then removal is going to be a bit more involved. A fresh application can even slow down a wet sanding process, but a wipe down with a 20% isopropyl alcohol mix usually removes it.Michael Stoops
Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.
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Thanks Michael. The car was treated with black wax, topped with UPW about 6 weeks ago. I'm here in Phoenix, so no rain, washed every 2 weeks, and maintained between with M135. I was planning on quickly polishing with M205 or UP to remove the UPW. As much as I like UPW, I really want to see how M07/M26 look on fresh single stage onyx black paint on my Lexus. The paint is in great shape as the car is garage all day at home and work, and the paint was corrected about 3 months ago with UC/M205.Originally posted by Michael Stoops View Post
If I understand your post correctly, a 20% IPA mix should remove the remaining wax? Thanks for everyone's help.Comment
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IPA may or may not remove the wax. I would give the car a light polish to remove the existing wax and then proceed with the combo you mentioned. What year is you lexus?Comment
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I read that while Dawn days es remove wax, it will also dry up the rubber trims.
I recently did GC Wash, clay, Cleaner Wax (#6), ULW (next day) and the car looks great.Comment
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2006 IS350 with 64K miles. Picked it up Christmas Eve. The paint was in very good shape for a 7+ year old car. I have done a complete correction, and since it is a daily driver I would say the car is 90+%. There are some rids that I chose not to work on too much. The beauty of this paint compared to my Acura Nighthawk Black Pearl which was clear coated, is that it hides defects really well for black.Originally posted by The Guz View Post
Today I washed with GC Shampoo in a foam gun (best purchase ever)
Polished with UP on a polishing pad
Glazed with M07 on a finishing pad
Waxed with M26 by hand
The car looks great, incredible depth and clarity. However, I still seem to like the looks of Ultimate Wax better. The paint doesn't look quite as deep with UW, but I really like the uber crisp reflections, and I find UW much easier to apply and remove then M26, not to mention the beading/sheeting of UW, and the durability. Tomorrow I am going to top it with UPW (backwards, I know) but I don't plan to polish it again. I will also say that UP with a finishing pad is a great paint cleaner/prep with very little cut.
I can get very similar results as M07/M26 with Black Wax in a single step, and Black Wax is much easier to use and considerably quicker.
Here are some previous photos:
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