Ultimate Compound?

[C8N]

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After applying UC, does Meguiars recommend IPA wipe down or Mineral Spirit wipe down to inspect?

[Murr1525]

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If you want to inspect, then yes.

[C8N]

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I should have phrased the question better. Which is preferred or recommended method? Or which does the better job? IPA or MS?

[Michael Stoops]

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IPA would be preferable, but usually no more than a 25% solution. Some believe that no more than a 10% solution is needed but there are no hard and fast rules to this. But isopropyl alcohol is cheap and readily available so it's a great inexpensive and safe way to strip the paint for inspection purposes during the correction process.

[s word]

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Yes I've run into a few that M105 didn't work but I must say. In 98% of the daily drivers I detail M105 can handle anything from paint transfer marks, scratches of all kinds, headlight restoration, glass cleaning, chrome cleaning and the like. M105 works great as an all in one compound for laymen and pros alike.

And yes I love Meg's product, company and support they give me.

M105 for glass cleaning? Please expand? Water spot removal?

Mike I think UC is a great starting place in the product line because it gives a good middle ground of cut scale to work off of. Likely the reason Meguiars uses it in 101 class. I bought a few bottles at the 101 class. But I swiftly turned over to M105 then additionally M101 when it came out. These two are also my go tos. I think they all finish similarly with minimal hazing and when finishing with M205 they all will look practically identical. So then why M105 and M101? Not only the versatility mentioned by Please Wash Me but I also found the Ms to do the job in much less time. Especially on the DAMF on Rupes like you mention. Ohh what a dream combo. Have yet to try M100. How would this compare in the M105, M101, UC game?

Does M101 have more cut than M105? I like to think not, just a different product base suspending the liquid based on its designed intention.

[Marc08EX]

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Chris, Mike Stoops used UC to remove water spots on glass in a TNOG session last year. I assume that the M105 was used the same way.

You've got water spots on glass that just don't want to budge. What do you do to fix that?


Get a little creative - grab a bottle of Ultimate Compound and kill those water spots!


And just like that, the water spots are gone.

Quote taken from: Pictures from Thursday Night Open Garage - March, 15th 2012

[STRIFE]

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Awesome versatile product available everywhere, and cheap too... reason why everyone should have a bottle on hand.

[s word]

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Thanks Marc, now that I see it again I remember seeing that. Guess I found a perfect use for all the UC I am sitting on. Would this serve any benefit to say polish the glass or is glass far harder than clear coat and therefore this will only remove surface residue/grime? And for hard water spot removal doesn't megs have a soap like product or spray for that now? And if so would the best solution for a car be that new soap/spray or the UC? Lets pretend the car doesn't need correction but the water spotting is bad? Completely hypothetical.

I imagine the soap/spray can only do so much and a product like UC would be needed for the stubborn stuff.

[Murr1525]

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The UC/#105, etc would just be for grime on the surface.

You would need proper glass polishing products for to remove swirls in glass.

And the new spray is basically UC in a sprayer...

[s word]

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Ok. So I have a car coming. I want to minimize time because it is for a friend. Bad water spotting like baked on for ages. The worst condition you can find. Paint is fairly hard too. What are the suggested products/steps that I should take? Again my interest is in time, not show car finish.

Step 1: UC/M105
Step 2: D301

Step 1: UC/M105
Step 2: M205
Step 3: wax/sealant

Step 1: D300
Step 2: D301

I know it depends on the paint, but am I missing other options like cleaner waxes and/or should I not try to keep this a 2 step process?

[Murr1525]

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For hard paint, if you know that it is, the MF System is often the best way to go.

[C8N]

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IPA would be preferable, but usually no more than a 25% solution. Some believe that no more than a 10% solution is needed but there are no hard and fast rules to this. But isopropyl alcohol is cheap and readily available so it's a great inexpensive and safe way to strip the paint for inspection purposes during the correction process.

Thank you for the info.

BTW... since someone mentioned using UC on glass... I actually used UC with a DA to clean my porcelin kitchen sink which was very neglected. Worked great!
Plus this way... the wife won't complain too much whenever I buy more detailing supplies.

Did I mentioned I also applied NXT to the glass doors in the bathroom shower?

[Michael Stoops]

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Ok. So I have a car coming. I want to minimize time because it is for a friend. Bad water spotting like baked on for ages. The worst condition you can find. Paint is fairly hard too. What are the suggested products/steps that I should take? Again my interest is in time, not show car finish.

Step 1: UC/M105
Step 2: D301

Step 1: UC/M105
Step 2: M205
Step 3: wax/sealant

Step 1: D300
Step 2: D301

I know it depends on the paint, but am I missing other options like cleaner waxes and/or should I not try to keep this a 2 step process?

If these water spots are as bad you suggest and have actually etched deeply into the paint, you may need to get very aggressive in order to remove them. Will any of the three processes you outline above the right one? That's darn near impossible to say without doing a test spot. If the water spot etching truly is severe you may find yourself using M105 on a microfiber cutting pad, working very small areas, and working them with several passes.

[s word]

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I should have logically stated that my test spot should start as the two step process...then step up as needed until I find the best result. So it would be more like run test on the last combo I mention, then the first, then the middle. Adjust as needed. I should know better.

But I also guess I didn't fully detail my question. Are any of these products better known as water spot "busters" or are all SMAT related items going to vary based on cut and holding liquid vs the paint? Or is something as simple as cleaner wax going to do the job of busting waterspots if etching is not an issue?

And expanded further if I am dealing with etched paint (which i am) would water spot "busters" not matter and I should really be dealing completely with cut and managing that and not even worrying about waterspots really? Because I will have to remove the etching to call the job done.

I hope that made sense.

[s word]

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Thank you for the info.

BTW... since someone mentioned using UC on glass... I actually used UC with a DA to clean my porcelin kitchen sink which was very neglected. Worked great!
Plus this way... the wife won't complain too much whenever I buy more detailing supplies.

Did I mentioned I also applied NXT to the glass doors in the bathroom shower?

Umm genius. I was sitting in the shower this morning looking at the glass saying why am I not implementing my detailing skills here.

Maybe I can make use of my UC this way. Anyone know if it scratches granite? I have some with water spots by kitchen sink from previous home owner. I have tried all other household cleaners to no success. If I can get this clean you will make me a hero.

And like you keeping things clean...wife won't complain. Already using my Megs APC+ all over the house to her approval! She still won't let me detail her car though.