#21

[chrisalvarez]

Does anyone know the longevity and or other benefits compared to other sealants? Or have any other suggestions I have been looking @ several including griots one step and klaas

[Detailing by M]

Re: #21

I used to use 21 all the time but know 66 is my goto.
I tell my customer the wax will last up to 8 car washes or more depending on storage of the car. Usually this means 3-6 months. This is common for all waxes/sealants but is a blanket statement. Again it depends on wash techniques, storage and where you live.

[chrisalvarez]

Re: #21

Thanks for the input I am looking for durability as well as shine. I use nxt or uw but im now looking for true sealants with more durability as well as a comparable shine to a carnuba wax. Just curious y the switch from #21 to #66

[chrisalvarez]

Re: #21

O yeah and f.y.I I love in the midwest so I get all types of weather and the winters are brutally cold with snow, ice and the whole 9

[Detailing by M]

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NXT is awesome. NXT, 20, & 21 have the "same" technology.
If your serious about sealing your car your not looking at a true sealant.
Opti-Coat will actually seal your car for the rest of it's life. And you'll never wax your car again. Now that's a seal.

[chrisalvarez]

Re: #21

Yeah I've considered that but for now I was looking @ klasse or the like. And isn't opti-gaurd the more durable one?

[chrisalvarez]

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The other reason im asking is because klasse lasts about 6 to 8 months. Some say the griots lasts up to a year, and I intend to top with collinite #845 insulator wax especially in the winter as it stands up to ice, sleet and snow. And lasts up to 7 months. So I was just wondering about the #21 as I'd like ti stay with megs and I've never used it.

[chrisalvarez]

Re: #21

The klasse is acrylic based if that's any constellation and that's y it is so durable

[Car Potential]

Opti-coat will seal the car for the cars lifetime? How does that work?

Also for car wax I'm a big fan of Ultimate Liquid Wax. Don't think it can get better than that. And I haven't tried NXT 2.0 or M21.

[RamAirV1]

Re: #21

The other reason im asking is because klasse lasts about 6 to 8 months. Some say the griots lasts up to a year, and I intend to top with collinite #845 insulator wax especially in the winter as it stands up to ice, sleet and snow. And lasts up to 7 months. So I was just wondering about the #21 as I'd like ti stay with megs and I've never used it.

I have both products, and have used them several times. The #845 is much more durable than the #21v2.0. The #21 is a good sealant though and will outlast the other Megs sealants. The #21 is easier to remove than the #845. The #21 is designed for production detailing where you need easy on and easy off. That is not the case with #845! If you apply too much, or leave it too long to dry, it will be a major PITA to remove. But once you get the technique down it is great.

RamAirV1

[chrisalvarez]

Re: #21

I have both products, and have used them several times. The #845 is much more durable than the #21v2.0. The #21 is a good sealant though and will outlast the other Megs sealants. The #21 is easier to remove than the #845. The #21 is designed for production detailing where you need easy on and easy off. That is not the case with #845! If you apply too much, or leave it too long to dry, it will be a major PITA to remove. But once you get the technique down it is great.

RamAirV1

thanks. Man that's the info I was looking for. Also how does the 845 work in the summer months? Also would u reccomend or have u personally put down a sealant like 21 then topped with the 845

[chrisalvarez]

Re: #21

Opti-coat will seal the car for the cars lifetime? How does that work?

Also for car wax I'm a big fan of Ultimate Liquid Wax. Don't think it can get better than that. And I haven't tried NXT 2.0 or M21.

its kind of a aftermarket clear coat for your car that is applyed by hand and left to cure. Supposedly it lasts about 5 years and has to be machine buffed off

[Car Potential]

Opti-coat will seal the car for the cars lifetime? How does that work?

Also for car wax I'm a big fan of Ultimate Liquid Wax. Don't think it can get better than that. And I haven't tried NXT 2.0 or M21.

its kind of a aftermarket clear coat for your car that is applyed by hand and left to cure. Supposedly it lasts about 5 years and has to be machine buffed off

I just looked up opti-coat 2.0 online and I was surprised its only $70 on autogeek.com. It says it last the cars lifetime. Also, your paint has to be flawless when applying it or else if you have swirls, then those will remain underneath the opti-coat.

Seems like an interesting product. For now I'm sticking with Ultimate Liquid Wax but eventually I may look into something like opti-coat.

[chrisalvarez]

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I just looked up opti-coat 2.0 online and I was surprised its only $70 on autogeek.com. It says it last the cars lifetime. Also, your paint has to be flawless when applying it or else if you have swirls, then those will remain underneath the opti-coat.

Seems like an interesting product. For now I'm sticking with Ultimate Liquid Wax but eventually I may look into something like opti-coat.

yeah and there is two kinds opti-gaurd and opti- coat and I believe opti-gaurd is the most durable of the two but yes car paint has to be flawless before application and wiped down with isopropol alcohol because there can be no polishing oils or any residue what so ever

[Car Potential]

Have you decided what sealant you were going to try?

One interesting thing is some companies will say their sealant will last up to 12 months like Klasse. But we already know it depends on the weather, where you park, how often you wash the car etc. so it seems more of a marketing strategy to say it will last a certain time period. And Meguiars doesn't say how long any of their waxes/sealants last because they know better.

As was mentioned by somebody else in an earlier post being the Collinite 845 sealant; that is one I may eventually try so I have something to compare to UW.