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    Will Ultimate Compound help remove the "orange peel" on my 2003 F250 SD? It's not severe, but it's enough to bother me. Also, I recently bought a used fiberglass tonneau cover, paint matched to the truck. It appears to have sat for a LONG while and has ALOT of what appears to be dust on it. I have tried hand washing and a "brushless" car wash, but nothing seems to remove it. Will the Ultimate Compound remove it? And after the UC, should I follow up with Ultimate polish, then the Gold Carnuba Wax?

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    Re: Ultimate Compound and Ultimate Polish

    No, UC wont help with the orange peel. Have to get into sanding for that.

    You could try a test spot of the Ult. Polish first on the 'dust', then UC if needed. Not sure what sort of stuff the dust might be, maybe a pic could help. Always could look at things like claying, or some kind of tar remover, etc depending on that that stuff is.
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    • #3
      Murr, I recently took Ultimate Compound to a black Dodge Charger had a door panel repainted. The owner, who is my dads friend and is extremely anal about cars, claimed the paint looked really Orange peely. He asked if I could level it out so I said heck I can try UC although I don't think it will. I did a few passes and according to him it did level the paint out so it wasn't really noticable at all.

      Any comment on this? I don't mean that in a smartie attitude way lol.
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        Hey, if it worked for someone, great. Fresh paint could be a lot softer... or oils hiding it some for a bit.

        I just wouldnt go around planning on it.
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          Re: Ultimate Compound and Ultimate Polish

          Originally posted by 03 tx pwr stroke View Post
          I recently bought a used fiberglass tonneau cover, paint matched to the truck. It appears to have sat for a LONG while and has ALOT of what appears to be dust on it. I have tried hand washing and a "brushless" car wash, but nothing seems to remove it. Will the Ultimate Compound remove it? And after the UC, should I follow up with Ultimate polish, then the Gold Carnuba Wax?
          Why not start with Ultimate Polish on a test spot. If that's not agressive enough then try Ultimate Compound, followed by a polish and wax, respectively.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Murr1525:509282
            Hey, if it worked for someone, great. Fresh paint could be a lot softer... or oils hiding it some for a bit.

            I just wouldnt go around planning on it.
            Hmm very true on the softer paint. I'll have to check back with him to see if maybe oils really are just hiding it temporarily.

            But, in theory, it kind of makes sense that maybe UC could work? Because Orange peel is uneven paint right? Well UC essentially is "removing" clear coat, so wouldn't the higher spots wear away quicker than the lower spots? Which would slowly knock down the difference between high and low spots making the paint look smoother?

            Maybe I'm looking way too deep into this. The difference in height is probably not enough for a foam pad to have that type of effect. Sorry for thread jacking!!
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            • #7
              Re: Ultimate Compound and Ultimate Polish

              Yeah, the theory is all the same as scratches/swirls, and needing things evened back out. Usually just too much to remove with a relatively mild product (mild compared to sanding).
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                Re: Ultimate Compound and Ultimate Polish

                The foam pad will conform to the contours of the orange peel and give fairly uniform cut without altering the texture. Because of this you won't, under normal circumstances, remove orange peel simply by using a compound and pad. We can even damp sand using an abrasive finishing disc and a 1/4" foam interface pad and not level orange peel. This is a commonly used process for removing severe defects on one panel without altering the paint texture of that panel, therefore maintaining the uniform look throughout the car.

                That said, if you very aggressively, and repeatedly, buff with an aggressive liquid and pad you can diminish the level of orange peel. But you're probably not going to do it very uniformly, and it's going to take a very, very long time. We have test panels that we've noticed a reduction of orange peel on after repeatedly hammering on them - lots of speed, lots of pressure, over and over and over again. So, while technically, yes, you can remove some orange peel with Ultimate Compound on a DA, it's neither effective nor recommended. The process would eat up several buffing pads, heavily stress the buffer, potentially create burn through issues, and you would still have orange peel except now it would likely be more noticeable in some places than in others. And if you do this without the benefit of a paint thickness gauge, that last part is almost guaranteed to happen. Bottom line - while technically possible, it's so impractical as to be almost impossible in the real world.

                As for the repainted panel that had bad orange peel that cleared up with some buffing - not a huge surprise as the paint was probably quite soft, and if the peel was bad enough the difference between high and low spots would be greater and therefore easier, in theory, for the buffer to level out.
                Michael Stoops
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                • #9
                  Re: Ultimate Compound and Ultimate Polish

                  Ok, so looks like I will just live with the very slight orange peel until I repaint the vehicle. I tried to take a pic of the fiberglass bed cover to show ya'll the "dust" that won't come off, but it doesn't show up on the pics. Will try again when it's not so bright out. Oh, and on a whim, I tried cleaning the cover with Meguiar's Headlight Restore Kit with limited results. It took ALOT of product to clean a very small area. This was before I purchased the UC and Ultimate Polish.

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