Removal time for natural vs synthetic waxes

[Nuscence813]

I have both caranuaba and synthetic wax. Are the cure times different for the different type of waxes. I know the rule of thumb is when you pass your finger through it you can tell whether it's cured or not. I have read some contraindicating forums saying 15-30 mins. 1-4 hours. I also know about contributing factors like humidity temp etc. basically is there a cheat sheet or formal information of wax removal times for the different waxes?

[Murr1525]

Re: Removal time for natural vs synthetic waxes

The removal time and cure time are different things.

Removal time is when the excess wax can be removed from the surface.

Cure time is when the molecule,s polymers, etc have set up as much as possible.

So for most products, the removal time is 15 minutes or so. The cure time can be as much as 24 hours, esp for the synthetic products.

Generally, if you are applying two coats of wax, you will get the best looks from waiting 24 hours to apply the second coat. But not everyone has that kind of time, so 15 minutes or so is nice at least.

[smack]

Re: Removal time for natural vs synthetic waxes

Like Murr said the longer you wait for them to cure the better off you are. But the absolute minimum is 15 minutes. Have you decided what wax you are going to use?

[Nuscence813]

I have ULP and GCC do I have no decided. I tried the GCC paste and applied by hand but initially it was fine but the next day in the sun it had some hazing. I washed with UWW and clayed it with quick detailer and white clay also applied UC by hand and then waxed. I didn't feel like the wax dried enough. Will it look like a haze because of that?

[smack]

Re: Removal time for natural vs synthetic waxes

GCCP has nothing to do with hazing. Either some of the wax residue wasnt buffed off or you wax in some of the compound that you didnt remove fully prior. Was there any haze or imperfections in the paint prior to wax? If you didnt lock in leftover compund try doing a QD wipedown to get rid of any hazing or residue left behind.

[Nuscence813]

It was all done by hand and appeared to be removed. Well I am still waiting for my v2 to arrive and then will tackle it from scratch again. If I leave the haze will it affect anything critically or be harder to remove later?

[smack]

Re: Removal time for natural vs synthetic waxes

The hazing wont be a problem one your V2 comes in. Run UC/yellow and then UP/black and all the hazing should be gone. You should have a crystal clear surface after that. You mentioned you had M7? You can use that after UP/black before you wax for additional gloss.

[ffboy]

Re: Removal time for natural vs synthetic waxes

Was the wax or polish/cleaner applied to thick? The haze can appear maybe hours or overnight even after the wax was removed cleanly. I've read about "sweating" from waxes, and particularly from carnauba waxes. Some waxes/sealants can be tempermental, ideally you should apply the wax as thim as possible. Do you have the paste or liquid Gold Class? It's easy to mistakenly apply a thick coat of the paste wax since it may take a while for the applicator to be primed sufficiently and spread the product thinly and evenly.

You may want to check this thread out:Thread: How to avoid wax "sweating"???

[Nuscence813]

Was the wax or polish/cleaner applied to thick? The haze can appear maybe hours or overnight even after the wax was removed cleanly. I've read about "sweating" from waxes, and particularly from carnauba waxes. Some waxes/sealants can be tempermental, ideally you should apply the wax as thim as possible. Do you have the paste or liquid Gold Class? It's easy to mistakenly apply a thick coat of the paste wax since it may take a while for the applicator to be primed sufficiently and spread the product thinly and evenly.

Yes that is exactly what I did. I used too much of it. I did use the applicator it came with. Cool now I know and the link was helpful, great thanks a bunch!!!

[ffboy]

Re: Removal time for natural vs synthetic waxes

Nice, good to know that it was helpful for you. I had a similar experience with the NXT 2.0 paste wax. It seemed to drag which was unusual since it is a synthetic product and should be easier to use.. so i tried to use more and use the wax as some sort of lube between the wax and the applicator.. bad idea. made it harder to remove.