Ultimate Protectant Spray, disappointing results :(

[TheSublimeGoose]

Re: Ultimate Protectant Spray, disappointing results

Try the ASD, it will last longer.

Just ordered some!

[Meticulous-Detail]

Re: Ultimate Protectant Spray, disappointing results

I tried again yesterday and used as little product as possible ,massaged in really well and then rubbed off any possible excess .

It rained pretty hard and most of the day about an hour later after applying.


For a comparison I used the old ultimate protectant on B pillar and new ultimate protectant spray on A pillar.

The old product remained on almost 100 percent ,it looked a tad beat up though.

The new product washed almost completely off with only about 2 percent remaining .

Try the ASD, it will last longer.

[TheSublimeGoose]

The only thing we can recommend is to spend a little more time or effort removing excess product. Hard plastics are simply not receptive to products, and as such can hold very little on their surface without being prone to run when wet.

I had a decent learning curve back when I had my truck and it took a while to learn you want to leave as close to nothing as possible on the plastic in order to minimize running.

I tried again yesterday and used as little product as possible ,massaged in really well and then rubbed off any possible excess .

It rained pretty hard and most of the day about an hour later after applying.


For a comparison I used the old ultimate protectant on B pillar and new ultimate protectant spray on A pillar.

The old product remained on almost 100 percent ,it looked a tad beat up though.

The new product washed almost completely off with only about 2 percent remaining .

Completely agree. The spray, while handy for interiors is useless for me on exteriors. My process with the spray:

1. Cleaned plastic trim with 1:1 APC. Used a clean tire brush to scrub trim down.
2. Cleaned same area with cotton balls soaked in rubbing alcohol. Removed a decent amount of "crud" even after the APC cleaning.
3. Washed trim down with hose. Squeaky clean, completely clean!
4. I worked with pin sized amounts of the spray product, to ensure I truly worked the product into the trim. I must've spent a good 15 minutes working the product into a foot long piece of hard plastic trim, about 4 inches wide.

On the opposite side of the vehicle I used the same method, on the same piece of plastic, using the Ultimate Black version of the product (the original 'squeeze' bottle).

The vehicle sat in my garage two days, before I took it out into a rainstorm. Low and behold, the spray product streaked horribly, while the squeeze product held strong. Must be something different about the spray formulation of UP that does not like the particular hard plastic on my vehicle.

It's worthy to note the that both the spray UP and squeeze bottle UP held up (very) well on rubber surfaces.

I don't believe Meg's would put a product out knowing it didn't perform, so as I stated earlier, it must be certain plastics that just aren't receptive to the spray formulation.

Thanks for reading!

-Mark

[detailchick]

Re: Ultimate Protectant Spray, disappointing results

The only thing we can recommend is to spend a little more time or effort removing excess product. Hard plastics are simply not receptive to products, and as such can hold very little on their surface without being prone to run when wet.

I had a decent learning curve back when I had my truck and it took a while to learn you want to leave as close to nothing as possible on the plastic in order to minimize running.

I tried again yesterday and used as little product as possible ,massaged in really well and then rubbed off any possible excess .

It rained pretty hard and most of the day about an hour later after applying.


For a comparison I used the old ultimate protectant on B pillar and new ultimate protectant spray on A pillar.

The old product remained on almost 100 percent ,it looked a tad beat up though.

The new product washed almost completely off with only about 2 percent remaining .

[tcy006]

Re: Ultimate Protectant Spray, disappointing results

I also had running problems with UP, so I switched to D4510 Plastic & Vinyl Coating from the Detailer Line last year and haven't had a problem since.

[detailchick]

Re: Ultimate Protectant Spray, disappointing results

Meguiars All Season Dressing in the Detailer Line.

Thanks Murr!

[Murr1525]

Re: Ultimate Protectant Spray, disappointing results

Meguiars All Season Dressing in the Detailer Line.

[detailchick]

Re: Ultimate Protectant Spray, disappointing results

I have Adams SVRT, 303, Megs ASD, DG531, Ultima Tire and Trim Guard, Vinyl 40 and Megs WBD. Here are my thoughts, first prep work is important before applying trim products. You must clean with a mild APC mix to get a proper bond. Out of the products mentioned above Ultima will last the longest, beads like crazy, is the most expensive and will not darken much. I did a test bt Adams SVRT and Megs ASD on the same car but opposite sides (both trim and tires). Megs ASD was darker, Adams was easier to apply, both lasted the same amount of time, Megs is much cheaper; IMO Megs wins. 303 IMO is so, so and DG 531 is great for rubber trim and seals.

Vinyl 40 and Megs WBD are great for interior and engine bays but will wash off quickly with rain.

What is megs ASD ?Thanks!

[detailchick]

Re: Ultimate Protectant Spray, disappointing results

The only thing we can recommend is to spend a little more time or effort removing excess product. Hard plastics are simply not receptive to products, and as such can hold very little on their surface without being prone to run when wet.

I had a decent learning curve back when I had my truck and it took a while to learn you want to leave as close to nothing as possible on the plastic in order to minimize running.

Thanks Mark.


I will try it again with your suggestions .

[Meticulous-Detail]

Re: Ultimate Protectant Spray, disappointing results

I have Adams SVRT, 303, Megs ASD, DG531, Ultima Tire and Trim Guard, Vinyl 40 and Megs WBD. Here are my thoughts, first prep work is important before applying trim products. You must clean with a mild APC mix to get a proper bond. Out of the products mentioned above Ultima will last the longest, beads like crazy, is the most expensive and will not darken much. I did a test bt Adams SVRT and Megs ASD on the same car but opposite sides (both trim and tires). Megs ASD was darker, Adams was easier to apply, both lasted the same amount of time, Megs is much cheaper; IMO Megs wins. 303 IMO is so, so and DG 531 is great for rubber trim and seals.

Vinyl 40 and Megs WBD are great for interior and engine bays but will wash off quickly with rain.

[Markus Kleis]

Re: Ultimate Protectant Spray, disappointing results

Im having the same issue with the new ultimate protectant spray product running on 2 vehicles now from just overnight dew.

The old ultimate protectant did not run like this.

I followed directions on the thread so I dont beleive it was an application problem.

The only place it didnt run was the cowl.

The only thing we can recommend is to spend a little more time or effort removing excess product. Hard plastics are simply not receptive to products, and as such can hold very little on their surface without being prone to run when wet.

I had a decent learning curve back when I had my truck and it took a while to learn you want to leave as close to nothing as possible on the plastic in order to minimize running.

[detailchick]

Re: Ultimate Protectant Spray, disappointing results

Im having the same issue with the new ultimate protectant spray product running on 2 vehicles now from just overnight dew.

The old ultimate protectant did not run like this.

I followed directions on the thread so I dont beleive it was an application problem.

The only place it didnt run was the cowl.

[FX4619]

Hey thanks for the info. I'll definitely pay more attention to the surface before applying this product. It actually rained pretty hard yesterday and the UP resisted the water better than I thought it would. Its a good product if applied correctly. Thanks!

[umi000]

Re: Ultimate Protectant Spray, disappointing results

All I did was wipe it down with a dry MF towel. You think I should use some APC first?

I'm thinking that would result in better performance from the product. Here's a quote from Michael Stoops on cleaning the surface prior to application of Ultimate Protectant (this is for the gel, but I'm guessing that the it would also apply to the spray):

When cleaning a surface prior to applying UP it is important to not only clean off any previous dressing that may have been on there (this is especially important with any sort of polymer enhanced dressing, or if you've gotten something like UQD or UQW on the surface) but also to let your cleaner fully dry before applying UP. M39 or APC are both excellent choices, and we've even seen window cleaner work in a pinch. While a window cleaner may not be recommended for repeated, routine cleaning of these surfaces, a quality automotive product shouldn't hurt anything if used on the rare occasion.

It's taken from this thread - the thread is a good guide on how to apply the product - basically use less rather than more product, and work it in for best results.

[Poki]

Re: Ultimate Protectant Spray, disappointing results

Had you applied any other product to that trim any time befor applying the Meg's? If you did, you MUST get it all off first. Cleaning with window cleaner or Dawn Dish Soap works well but ya gotta get anything previously used off first.