tire dressing disappearing on tires

[79elcamino]

i bought new tires and after cleaning them very very very well with two different types of tire and wheel cleaners, beyond steel wheel cleaner and mothers all wheel and tire cleaner, and a scrub brush the tire sidewalls looks like there is nothing on it, no browning, no white stuff from the production process...nothing visible, and no dirty water after rinsing. after applying the trigger version of endurance to a tire applicator then to the tire the tire dressing stays in some areas and those areas get nice and black and other areas it just disappears, it looks like i didn't apply dressing to that part of the tire, even after 3 heavy applications the tire dressing it still disappearing, again only in certain areas. i called meguiars and the person i spoke to said that only thing he can think of it that there is still something left on the tire... oh i happens to all 4 tires, he told me to try M39 which i will do on friday. any other suggestions???

[Murr1525]

Re: tire dressing disappearing on tires

Drive them around some and break them in? Dont really know if that will do anything, but who knows. Different tires can act differently.

[79elcamino]

Re: tire dressing disappearing on tires

ok, also i scrubbed the sidewall at least 5 times, not just once or twice.

[opie_7afe]

Re: tire dressing disappearing on tires

different brands of tires react differently to tire dressings, some tires will be super glossy while using the same dressing while others will look matte. ive had some that just soak up the dressing and have to apply it numerous times for it to finnaly have a even sheen, my tires on my front wheels are like this. the portion of tire closest to wheel to about middle of sidewall will get glossy and look great, from tread to middle will look very matte so i thought of an idea and that was using some optimum optibond diluted to 1:1 and put it in a small touch up spray gun and sprayed it on tires and let soak for a while finally got the even sheen i wanted..only thing i can suggest is just keep re applying then sooner or later the tires will look great even after using a strong tire cleaner..seems like some tires are just more porous then others so you need to fill up the pores with dressing which takes a good bit of time but worth it in the end...good luck

[79elcamino]

Re: tire dressing disappearing on tires

different brands of tires react differently to tire dressings, some tires will be super glossy while using the same dressing while others will look matte. ive had some that just soak up the dressing and have to apply it numerous times for it to finnaly have a even sheen, my tires on my front wheels are like this. the portion of tire closest to wheel to about middle of sidewall will get glossy and look great, from tread to middle will look very matte.

its just the opposite for me, the part closest to the wheel to the middle is the part that the dressing doesnt show up on. so its nothing that it still on the side wall its just the tire rubber compound itself, that stinks. will a different dressing react differently?? like the new gold class gel version? what other dressing are high shine and are the least likely to sling, thats y i use the new gold class cause it doesnt sling.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: tire dressing disappearing on tires

We've seen some pretty tenacious coatings on new tires that can be a pain to fully scrub off. If you're getting mixed appearance from the dressing we can only assume there are still traces of the original coating in places on the sidewall. Let's face it, the composition of the sidewall should be very uniform so any dressing applied should respond uniformly on it. Unless something is there that's preventing the dressing from doing so. Of course, that doesn't make it any less frustrating or annoying.

[79elcamino]

Re: tire dressing disappearing on tires

We've seen some pretty tenacious coatings on new tires that can be a pain to fully scrub off. If you're getting mixed appearance from the dressing we can only assume there are still traces of the original coating in places on the sidewall. Let's face it, the composition of the sidewall should be very uniform so any dressing applied should respond uniformly on it. Unless something is there that's preventing the dressing from doing so. Of course, that doesn't make it any less frustrating or annoying.

any suggestions on what i should use to remove it, ive tried 3 different types or tire cleaners, i will be trying M39 tomorrow.

[79elcamino]

Re: tire dressing disappearing on tires

so i cleaned the car today i used all 3 tire cleaners then once the tires were dry i used M39 and the tires look so good, there was nothing on the sidewall, i was getting all excited thinking the tire dressing would stay on the tire this time and so i applied the tire dressing to each tire then went back to the first tire and the dressing was gone!!!!!!!!!!! this is so frustrating,, mike any suggestions?? super degreaser next??

[Markus Kleis]

Re: tire dressing disappearing on tires

I would definitely try Super Degreaser, which I have found to be very effective on tires. Just be careful about letting it dwell on the wheels as it could possibly cause damage depending on the wheel surface type.

Other than that, it might also be possible that the rubber is just not porous enough in that section to be able to accept the dressing. I would think a wire brush or even just driving around for a while and working the tires in a bit might help that out if that is the case.

As for new tires and coatings, I used to work at a dealer when I was a kid and I recall some tires have a spray on them that was absurdly difficult to remove. It could take several minutes of scrubbing with a wire brush to remove it.

That said, I have come across tires from time to time, old or new, that simply do not accept dressing in a uniform manner - which I think might have to do with the manufacturing. There are also times that tires simply drink an unbelievable amount of dressing before it gets saturated enough to stay on the surface.

[daniel clark]

Re: tire dressing disappearing on tires

O.k time to start a tire dressing friendly tire referral thread!

[Alfisti]

Maybe the mould releasing compound and wax in the rubber is still patchy.

[Jossy92]

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Since they are new tires, might there be something "in" (not "on") the tire....
that continues to flash off?

Maybe hold off and let the tire breathe? It might just be a tire problem not a dressing problem. Where did you buy the tires? Salesman get fancy with some silicone spray?

[cnfowler]

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I've seen this with new tires. Just calm down and drive the car. I don't know what you would call it, but I call it breaking them in. After a break in period, they'll start to accept dressings.

Colin

[saturn2]

I used to see this when I used to work at a dealership. If the sidewall was hard it wouldn't hold a dressing. Whereas if the sidewall was grippy and soft it wouldn't be a problem.

[gtrspeed]

Re: tire dressing disappearing on tires

If the "break-in" period doesn't solve your problem, you might consider picking up a brass-bristled tire brush. It comes in handy when you need to aggressively clean your tires, or if your sidewalls have grooves where old dressing can build up over time. Just be careful to keep the brush of the wheel itself.

I've found that most standard wheel brushes are good at removing brake dust and road grime, but not so good at removing solvent-based dressings - they just seem to move the product around. My theory is that using something more absorbent, like a bug sponge or old terry towel, helps because it allows the dressing residue to actually transfer over to the cloth.

That said, I've had a bear of a time completely removing Endurance dressing from my tires. I've used APC+, Super Degreaser, Tarminator, CGCW, a variety of brushes (including the brass one), and a bug sponge, and over the course of several washes, I've gotten about 95% of the residue off, but there's just a little bit still hanging on. Frustrating, to say the least - I definitely feel your pain.