Simple green vs apc vs degreaser

[grapplerwags]

For liability reasons I don't do much in terms of engine cleaning. I'm all out of degreaser manufactured by
trans mate. I will say it is great in door jams as well as well as leaving tires thirsty for dressing. I have some simple green on hand and have been using on interiors but would rather use something made for vehicle
cleaning. Plus it stinks.

How is apc+ in terms of cutting on engines should I decide to do one. Or for tires and interiors. Or for
Shampooing. I have to place an order with Rick tonight. But it would be nice to use one product and just label bottles.

Thank you

[Murr1525]

Re: Simple green vs apc vs degreaser

Definately anything APC or APC+ over Simple Green.

[ethereal45]

Re: Simple green vs apc vs degreaser

I don't find Simple Green all that great honeslty, and it can be corrosive towards aluminum. APC+ is a much better product all around for cars in my opinion, and it's cheaper too if you dilute 10:1.

APC+ is okay for cleaning tires as well, although to get the road grime off you might have better luck with Super Degreaser.

[STRIFE]

Re: Simple green vs apc vs degreaser

Is Megs Super degreaser any better than regular store brand degreaser....at the locate supermarket, there was a no name brand of degreaser, 1 gallon for $8 I mean if Im just using to clean tires??

[ethereal45]

Re: Simple green vs apc vs degreaser

Alot of people really like Super Degreaser, myself included, but it's hard to say how much better it works. I think it works better all around than Simple Green, which is the only other degreaser I've used an appreciable amount of.

Super Degreaser is much safer, as it's designed for use on automobiles, whereas Simple Green is not (SG is highly corrosive towards aluminum).

[Murr1525]

Re: Simple green vs apc vs degreaser

Simple Green turned my wheel wells' black plastic white on previous car.

A few months of APC and dressing and they were back to black.

[SofaKing]

Re: Simple green vs apc vs degreaser

I've been using Purple Power with great results; the Purple Power was on the shelf at Walmart right next to the Meguiars products!

here's some additional info on various APC's:

Duragloss pH is 12.62
Megs pH is 12.80
Purple Power pH is 13.00
Simple Green 9.54
Distilled water pH is 6.92

It terms of these findings, Simple Green is the least Harsh.
Anything under 7 is on the acid side. Anything above 7 is on the alkalinity side.


"A pH of 7 is neutral, 0 is the most acidic pH rating, 14 is the most basic (alkaline/caustic) pH rating. The pH scale is a logarithmic scale. Each unit of change equals a "power of ten". A pH of 3 is actually 10 times more acidic than a pH of 4. Conversely, a pH of 13 is actually 10 times more alkaline than a pH of 12. Therefore, a pH of 13 is 10,000 times more alkaline/caustic than a pH of 9."



SofaKing

[ethereal45]

Re: Simple green vs apc vs degreaser

You can't go off of the pH as the sole determination of how corrosive something is, it is highly specific to the actual chemical compounds in a given product. Simple Green has a documented history of discoloring and corroding aluminum, which is why I don't let it go anywhere near my car. Super Degreaser is strong stuff, but as it is a Meguiar's product, I trust it on my car.

Also, it should be noted that the pH scale is not limited to 0-14, but is in fact infinite. In my chemistry lab we have Hydrochloric Acid that is about 19 Molar, which corresponds with a pH of about -1.3 (yes, a negative pH! -- unbelievably strong stuff).

[GhOsT1321]

Re: Simple green vs apc vs degreaser

I've been using Purple Power with great results; the Purple Power was on the shelf at Walmart right next to the Meguiars products!

here's some additional info on various APC's:

Duragloss pH is 12.62
Megs pH is 12.80
Purple Power pH is 13.00
Simple Green 9.54
Distilled water pH is 6.92

It terms of these findings, Simple Green is the least Harsh.
Anything under 7 is on the acid side. Anything above 7 is on the alkalinity side.


"A pH of 7 is neutral, 0 is the most acidic pH rating, 14 is the most basic (alkaline/caustic) pH rating. The pH scale is a logarithmic scale. Each unit of change equals a "power of ten". A pH of 3 is actually 10 times more acidic than a pH of 4. Conversely, a pH of 13 is actually 10 times more alkaline than a pH of 12. Therefore, a pH of 13 is 10,000 times more alkaline/caustic than a pH of 9."



SofaKing

PH has little to do with cars. It's the chemicals used that count. Purple Power will etch aluminum. The chemicals count. For example: marinades recommend that you do not marinade in an aluminum pan. This is because certain food additives react with aluminum, this causes a replacement reaction and the aluminum replaces an element in the flavorings. This makes the marinade have aluminum in it and taste like aluminum.