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Detail a navy blue audi according to the owner he said that the clay bar enhanced the oxidation for hin to notice it even more. He just didnt want to own it that the oxidation was already there and i made the car sooooo clean that i made it come out even more. Sounds ridiculous to me. What do you guys think? How would you react to him not wanting to pay you and blaming it on you. Saying that the car washes leave so that the oxidation is not visible.
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Re: can clay enhance oxidation
Thats not even funny,clay if anything removes dead paint...sounds as if this guy is punking you... better represent! -
Man he wouldn't stop saying the it was my fault that he would always take it to the car wash and it came out looking shiny I'm like no it didnt I mean come on. MOL has taught me better than car washes.Comment
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Are you or he saying the car looks worse since you detailed it? Or that it oxidizes faster since you detailed it?
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Any sample pics??/Comment
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Idk how to upload them ill c how i do i. First he was saying that the oxidation was not there. That i made it coke out in only 2hours of detail. Then he said it might have been some small but i enhanced it somehow. Reason i did not c it as soon as i get there was bcuz he had water spot all over from the morning sprinkles. Once i washed the car and dried it the roof was mildly oxidized.
Now he said that i should have told him what would come off. I was like its a simple wash clay wax. Its not like i 2stage polish. Then after i removed the oxidation which came out pretty good. The clearcoat was alreasy cracking. But you couldnt see it bcuz the oxidationg was distorting it from really seeing anything below the oxidation. Will post pics
MOL wnt let me upload pics n u can see the goods really wellComment
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Clay can cause marring, noticable more on a dark color than on a light color. Depending on how aggressive of a clay bar you used and how much pressure, you certainly could have added some noticable markings. To please your customer you could offer to remove the marring with a mild cleaner wax such as Meg's D151.John @ HillCityAutoDetail.com
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You need to upload images to the gallery, not just attach them to a specific post. It sure sounds like there were some real issues in this paint before you started though. Is the clear actually failing on this car?Michael Stoops
Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.
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Ill attach them to the gallery then. I clayed the car the same amount of pressure as the hood and trunck and nothing noticeable came out there.
After him finally saying well it might have beend some hazyness, i was like like there you go wasnt my fault. So i used m85 a foam pad on my portle cable. Oxidation no more. Followed with a polish and some wax and new-ish.
But then the cracks in cc were even more visible n then he insists that that was my fault let the pics guide you. Ill post them up.
Yeah the cc looks like it was in the beggining of cracking. My brotbers roof on his vw passat happened the same way. And it gotttt wooooorse.much worse. Hope i can upload the pics.Comment
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images are in the gallery already under ricadodetail- usernameComment
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From what I seen in the pics, it looks like the beginning of clear coat failure. The white spots that certainly like it to me. Very seldom does clear coat paint oxidize like that. I think there was some marring from the clay, but IMO it is clear coat failure.Comment
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Is the damage mostly on the top horizontal panels? You only show pics from the roof, but is it like that on other places as well?Comment
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No only roof top rest of the car was still good. Clay didnt show no sign of struggle on the rest of the car.
But we can all agree that this was not caused or made worse by claying the car?Comment
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This is just my opinion, but I don't see how this was caused by the clay. Since it is just on the roof, I'm really thinking clear coat failure.Originally posted by ricadodetail View PostComment
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